From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Sep 22 13:34:00 2011 From: "Arne Dieckmann adieckma^googlemail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: G09: Convergence Issues for H-Bonded Systems Message-Id: <-45495-110922132939-5520-DZy7fWpUYZqWZenO6Y27Kg^_^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Arne Dieckmann Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:29:28 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Sent to CCL by: Arne Dieckmann [adieckma . googlemail.com] I would not consider -1.9 wavenumbers an imaginary frequency. Have a look at the Gaussian manual and whitepapers, there is a section about this issue. Cheers, Arne On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Sam Abrash sabrash]_[richmond.edu wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Sam Abrash" [sabrash_+_richmond.edu] > Hi Folks, > > I have a job involving hydrogen bonding of 3 acetylenes to the benzene cation. I'm having trouble with the geometric convergence. I was able to get the system to converge with normal convergence criteria, opt=calcall, and MaxStep=5, but then I got an imaginary frequency of -1.9 wavenumbers. > > Subsequently, I changed to Opt=tight, tried both calcfc and calcall, and have steadily reduced MaxStep to 1, but it still won't converge. The force constant criteria have been met, but the problem is the displacement criteria. Both this observation and looking at the structures with JMOL show that the problem is finding the minimum in a very shallow potential. > > Two questions. First, is the 1.9 wavenumber imaginary frequency real or an artifact? Second, any advice on how to force the system to converge? Model chemistry is M062X/6-311++G**. > > Thanks! > Sam> >