From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Dec 22 15:00:00 2010 From: "Mehdi Esrafili m_esrafili .. yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Semiempirical energies Message-Id: <-43444-101222140801-19345-HKmCiUfuy7+mnAxPOfZzNg~~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Mehdi Esrafili Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1383476510-1293044868=:9946" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:07:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Mehdi Esrafili [m_esrafili#,#yahoo.com] --0-1383476510-1293044868=:9946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Eliac;=0AAre you sure=A0that your=A0binding energy calculation is base= d on the truely =0Aoptimized structure?=A0Have you checked its IR frequenci= es?=0ARegards=A0=0AMehdi=0A=0A---------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------=A0=A0=0A=0A`The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anyt= hing.'=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Edward John Phelps (1822-1900)=0A--------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------=0A =0AMehdi D. Esrafili=0AAssis= tance Professor of Physical Chemistry=0ACurrent address:=A0Department of Ch= emistry, =0AFaculty of Basic Sciences, University of Maragheh=0AMargheh, Ir= an. =0ATel.: (+098) 021-82883488=A0=0AFax: (+098) 021 88009730 =0AE-mail 1:= m_esrafili*yahoo.com=0AE-mail 2: esrafili*maragheh.ac.ir=0A----------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------------------------=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0AFrom: Pedro Silva pedros[-]ufp.edu.pt =0ATo: "Esrafili, Mehdi D " =0ASent: Wed, D= ecember 22, 2010 7:36:42 PM=0ASubject: CCL: Semiempirical energies=0A=0A=0A= Sent to CCL by: Pedro Silva [pedros]*[ufp.edu.pt]=0AYou should not expect v= ery reliable data from semi-emprirical computations ;-)=0A=0AOn Sun, Dec 19= , 2010 at 10:07 PM, Eliac Brown Eliacbrown|-|yahoo.com=0A wrote:=0A>=0A> Sent to CCL by: "Eliac =A0Brown" [Eliacbrown%%yaho= o.com]=0A> Dear All=0A> According to my semiempirical calculations using PM= 3 and AM1, the distance=0A> between two molecules is less than the sum of v= dw radii by around 0.3 ang., =0Abut=0A> when I calculated the binding energ= ies I got a positive energy difference.=0A> Have any body got this observat= ion before? or is there something wrong with my=0A> data?=0A> Merry xmas=0A= > Eliac> =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message> =A0 = =A0 =0A>=A0http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message> =A0 =A0 =0A>=A0=> =A0 =A0 =0A>=A0http://www.ccl= .net/spammers.txt>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0APedro J. Silva=0AAssociate Prof= essor=0AUniversidade Fernando Pessoa=0APorto - Portugal=0Ahttp://www2.ufp.p= t/~pedros/science/science.htm=0A=0A=0A=0A-=3D This is automatically added t= o each message by the mailing script =3D-=0ATo recover the email address of= the author of the message, please change=0Athe strange characters on the t= op line to the * sign. You can also=0Alook up the X-Original-From: line in = the mail header.=0A=0A=0A= =A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0AE-mail to = administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST*ccl.net or use=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.c= cl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 = =A0=0A=0ABefore posting, check= wait time at: http://www.ccl.net=0A=0A=0AConf= erences: http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/=0A=0ASe= arch Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/searchccl/index.shtml=0A=0AIf y= our mail bounces from CCL with 5.7.1 error, check:=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http://www= .ccl.net/spammers.txt=0A=0ARTFI: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/aboutccl/inst= ructions/=0A=0A=0A --0-1383476510-1293044868=:9946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Dear Eliac;
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Are you sure&nb= sp;that your binding energy calculation is based on the truely optimiz= ed structure? Have you checked its IR frequencies?
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Regard= s 
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Mehdi
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`The man who makes no mistakes does not usua= lly make anything.'
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           =             &nb= sp;          Edward John Phelp= s (1822-1900)
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=0A<= HR SIZE=3D1>=0AFrom: Pedro = Silva pedros[-]ufp.edu.pt <owner-chemistry*ccl.net>
To: "Esrafili, Mehdi D " <m_es= rafili*yahoo.com>
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You should not expect very reliable data from semi-em= prirical computations ;-)

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Eliac Br= own Eliacbrown|-|yahoo.com
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> Sent to CCL by: "Eliac  Brown" [Eliacbrown%%yahoo.com]
= > Dear All
> According to my semiempirical calculations using PM3 = and AM1, the distance
> between two molecules is less than the sum of= vdw radii by around 0.3 ang., but
> when I calculated the binding energies I got a posit= ive energy difference.
> Have any body got this observation before? o= r is there something wrong with my
> data?
> Merry xmas
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