From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Dec 9 02:45:01 2009 From: "Mikael Johansson mikael.johansson]=[helsinki.fi" To: CCL Subject: CCL: What's the reasonable range for Mulliken charges on metallic cluster? Message-Id: <-40888-091209024304-23577-WDDRBac+2owD1JKRRtyKCw _ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Mikael Johansson Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:42:50 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Mikael Johansson [mikael.johansson%helsinki.fi] Hello Tsung-Wen! On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Tsung-Wen Yen peter308:-:gmail.com wrote: > My caluculation of Mulliken partial charge on noble metallic > clusters(N=38) has some peculiar results. Some of the atoms will show > 5~6 electrons. Is this reasonable? I used (RECP19|SD) basis set for Gold > and Copper. Could you tell me on which range should be reasonable for > MPA charges? I have the feeling my electron structure may have converged > to a wrong state. I appreciated for your advice. Mulliken charges for metal systems can give you almost any random numbers. You should not use them for analysing anything important. Thus, a charge of 5-6 is not an indication of problems in your calculations, only in the way Mulliken charges are defined. The most hilarious failure I've encountered is a charge of -78 on tungsten in WAu12: PCCP 6 (2004) 11-22, http://xlink.rsc.org/?DOI=B310395A Have a nice day, Mikael J. http://www.iki.fi/~mpjohans/