CCL: Ab initio on bridged rings
- From: "Wayne Steinmetz"
<WES04747-$-pomona.edu>
- Subject: CCL: Ab initio on bridged rings
- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:33:56 -0700
Sent to CCL by: "Wayne Steinmetz" [WES04747:+:pomona.edu]
You are having problems with convergence so your system shows
sensitivity to structural details. I recommend that you first generate
a structure using molecular mechanics and a good Class II force field,
e.g. the Merck Molecular Force Field or Allinger's MM3. Sometimes,
intuition in initially drawing the structure leads one astray. For
example, when I drew the structure of calixarene, I started with a
structure quite far in energy from the global minimum. Hence, after you
have minimized your initial structure, you might also want to search
conformational space. Spartan uses a Monte Carlo algorithm which
usually works. In difficult cases such as calixarene, I have used
distance geometry to get out of a trap.
You can rely on the results of molecular mechanics if you use a Class II
force field. Once you have located the global minimum, then proceed to
Hartree Fock and then a more advanced method such as DFT with Becke's
B3LYP functional or Truhlar's M06 functional. If the convergence
falters, you might tweak a portion of this structure. This trick often
helps getting out of a rut.
Wayne E. Steinmetz
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Subject: CCL: Ab initio on bridged rings
Sent to CCL by: "Simon Halstead" [shalstead:hit.edu.cn]
Dear all,
I am trying to optimize some bridged (1-4) cyclohexane rings. I
initially optimized them using sempiempirical methods. These
calculations converged very rapidly. However, I then tried to optimize
the resulting structures at a higher level of theory. These high level
calculations have failed to converge, despite being run for a large
number of steps. I have tried HF, MP2 and B3LYP with a variety of basis
sets but nothing appears to converge. Visualizing the outputs of the
failed calculations shows no problems with the structure.
Does anyone have any experience with structures like this or can anyone
give me a suggestion of how best to optimize bridged rings?
I am using GAMESS if this makes any differnce.
Thanks for your help,
Simon Halstead
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