CCL:G: CCL rules
- From: "Dominic Ryan"
<dominic.ryan**comcast.net>
- Subject: CCL:G: CCL rules
- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:19:12 -0400
Sent to CCL by: "Dominic Ryan" [dominic.ryan#,#comcast.net]
Indeed, I tried to convey this as well, perhaps not adequately. I think the
topics merit airing and discussion. I would not want to see that, or either
party silenced.
In fact, I would argue that by more carefully avoiding an appearance of
advertising the journal, the clarity and force of argument would likely be
improved and I would like to hear that.
Dominic
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:05 AM
To: Ryan, M Dominic
Subject: CCL:G: CCL rules
Sent to CCL by: Herbert Fruchtl [herbert.fruchtl[-]st-andrews.ac.uk]
While I don't want to see the table of contents of every journal that
has some bearing on computational chemistry (you can sign up to get
email alerts of this kind with most publishers), I always find it
refreshing to get a reminder that there are philosophical assumptions
underlying chemistry that are worth questioning and discussing. Even
though we don't actually have time to do that, but spend our days
figuring out the meaning of the IOPs of a certain program...
I find it more worrying that somebody with a personal axe to grind
(there have been some "lively" exchanges on CCL between Messrs. Sun
and
Scerri) tries to silence somebody else on procedural grounds.
Herbert
Dominic Ryan dominic.ryan[*]comcast.net wrote:
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> This is actually an interesting topic and a rare digression from G03
> difficulties.
>
>
>
> If one looks back over the many years of CCL usage I cannot think of any
> other occurrences of a journal editor supplying a steady stream of
> references to 'his' journal and I have been reading the list approximately
> since it started.
>
>
>
> I find it all the more notable when considering that the journal in
question
> only covers computational chemistry in part.
>
>
>
> Occasional pointers to volumes such as the reviews series by Don Boyd were
> entirely appropriate I think, in part since they were a single event and
in
> part because they were completely about the broad subject this list is
about
> and highly valued by the community.
>
>
>
> This is not to say that some of the topics raised are not interesting,
> indeed they are. Still, to my reading, Sengen Sun raises a pertinent
point
> that stands apart from his dispute with articles in the journal. Nor
would
> I either want to see such discussion of the topics squelched, some of it
> does belong here while other topics seem quite a stretch.
>
>
>
> So, while I had not twigged to the issue myself, now that he raised the
> question I think he may have a point about undue highlighting of a journal
> by its editor.
>
>
>
> Dominic Ryan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-chemistry[A]ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry[A]ccl.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:22 PM
> To: Ryan, M Dominic
> Subject: CCL: CCL rules
>
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: Sengen Sun [sengensun+/-yahoo.com]
>
>
> Dear Professor Eric Scerri,
>
>
> In science, there are some basic rules such as
>
> following logic and using concise words as much as we
>
> can. These basic rules should make sure that science
>
> is distinguished from religions, arts, politics, etc.
>
> In the reality, it is very complicated.
>
>
> I am not sure that you are aware of some rules in CCL.
>
> Although there are no expplicit rules on journal and
>
> book advertisements, in my philosophy, the following
>
> rules apply:
>
>
> "Commercial software: software sold to anyone for more
>
> than a cost of packing, shipping and handling. If you
>
> wish to submit a commercial announcement to the list,
>
> please respect the following rules:
>
> ..
>
> No reposting -- Reposts of software announcements are
>
> not permitted unless new features/releases become
>
> available."......
>
>
> In my logic, no journals or books are more priviledged
>
> to be posted here than software programs of
>
> computational chemistry.
>
>
> I don't mean to attack your journal or your book. Your
>
> book about the Periodic Table looks good to me by the
>
> introduction. I am considering to buy one. But rules
>
> are rules. I always consider what rules to follow or
>
> what rules to apply to us.
>
>
> I did see a few good articles in FOCH, although I have
>
> disagreements on some others. I apologize for my bad
>
> emotion when I strongly disagree. I like a recent
>
> article by Jay A. Labinger (FOCH, 2006, 8(2), 97). The
>
> first sentence in the Abstract says:
>
>
> "The Science Wars have pitted defenders of science
>
> against those accused of attacking it with the weapons
>
> of constructivism and relativism."
>
>
> I am very surprised that the attackers on science are
>
> so sttrong - defenders are pitted! Who did it? It is
>
> lawless, isn't it?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Sengen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>This is actually an interesting topic and a rare digression from
=
> G03
> difficulties. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>If one looks back over the many years of CCL usage I cannot =
> think of
> any other occurrences of a journal editor supplying a steady stream of
> references to 'his' journal and I have been reading the list =
> approximately since
> it started. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Courier New"'>I find it all the more notable when
=
> considering that
> the journal in question only covers computational chemistry in =
> part.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>Occasional pointers to volumes such as the reviews series by Don
=
> Boyd
> were entirely appropriate I think, in part since they were a single =
> event and
> in part because they were completely about the broad subject this list =
> is about
> and highly valued by the community.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>This is not to say that some of the topics raised are not =
> interesting,
> indeed they are. Still, to my reading, Sengen Sun raises a =
> pertinent point
> that stands apart from his dispute with articles in the journal.
=
> Nor
> would I either want to see such discussion of the topics squelched, some =
> of it
> does belong here while other topics seem quite a =
> stretch.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>So, while I had not twigged to the issue myself, now that he =
> raised the
> question I think he may have a point about undue highlighting of a =
> journal by
> its editor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>Dominic
Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
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> 10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: owner-chemistry[A]ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry[A]ccl.net] <br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:22 PM<br>
> To: Ryan, M Dominic <br>
> Subject: CCL: CCL rules</span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>Sent to CCL by: Sengen Sun =
>
[sengensun+/-yahoo.com]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>Dear Professor Eric
Scerri,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>In science, there are some basic rules such =
> as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>following logic and using concise words as much as =
> we<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>can. These basic rules should make sure that =
> science<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>is distinguished from religions, arts, politics, =
> etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>In the reality, it is very =
> complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>I am not sure that you are aware of some rules in =
> CCL.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>Although there are no expplicit rules on journal =
> and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>book advertisements, in my philosophy, the =
> following<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>rules
apply:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>"Commercial software: software sold to anyone for =
> more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>than a cost of packing, shipping and handling. If =
> you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>wish to submit a commercial announcement to the =
> list,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>please respect the following
rules:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>No reposting -- Reposts of software announcements =
> are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>not permitted unless new features/releases =
> become<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>available."......<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>In my logic, no journals or books are more =
> priviledged<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>to be posted here than software programs =
> of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>computational
chemistry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>I don't mean to attack your journal or your book. =
> Your<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>book about the Periodic Table looks good to me by the =
> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>introduction. I am considering to buy one. But =
> rules<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>are rules. I always consider what rules to follow =
> or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>what rules to apply to
us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>I did see a few good articles in FOCH, although I =
> have<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>disagreements on some others. I apologize for my =
> bad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>emotion when I strongly disagree. I like a =
> recent<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>article by Jay A. Labinger (FOCH, 2006, 8(2), 97). =
> The<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>first sentence in the Abstract =
> says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>"The Science Wars have pitted defenders of =
> science<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>against those accused of attacking it with the =
> weapons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>of constructivism and =
>
relativism."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
>
10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>I am very surprised that the attackers on science =
> are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
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> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>so sttrong - defenders are pitted! Who did it? It =
> is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt'>lawless, isn't
it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier
New"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
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