From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 23 12:26:00 2005
From: "Jim Kress ccl_nospam^^kressworks.com" <owner-chemistry###server.ccl.net>
To: CCL
Subject: CCL: CCL and Google Base or Wikipedia, or web-based journals
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Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [ccl_nospam-,-kressworks.com]
> While many of the research articles are funded by government 
> (= public money), but they can only be accessed by 

= money of individual citizens taken by government force depriving them of
the ability to meet their own needs.

HOWEVER, using Wikipedia as a publishing resource for technical journals
might be an interesting idea.  It would provide a common point of access, a
mechanism for controlled annotation and review with proper attribution to
the reviewer(s) and annotator(s).  It could also provide a discussion board
for comments and observations.

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yao-Ying Chien chieny[]msu.edu [mailto:owner-chemistry]-[ccl.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:37 AM
> To: Kress, Jim 
> Subject: CCL: CCL and Google Base or Wikipedia, or web-based journals
> 
> Sent to CCL by: Yao-Ying Chien [chieny%msu.edu] Ivan 
> Tubert-Brohman ivan.tubert-brohman{}yale.edu said the following on
> 2005/11/22  08:48p:
> 
> >Sent to CCL by: Ivan Tubert-Brohman 
> [ivan.tubert-brohman:yale.edu] Bill 
> >Ross ross^-^cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Sent to CCL by: Bill Ross [ross|a|cgl.ucsf.edu] I would be very 
> >>hesitant to cite wikipedia because it will change - 
> hopefully for the 
> >>better - so that in some number of years the citation may not make 
> >>much sense.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >That's a non-issue. You can always cite the specific version of the 
> >page you are seeing right now, same as any older revision, 
> because all 
> >the revisions are archived. This actually makes it more citable than 
> >most other websites!
> >  
> >
> This is becoming interesting. I have been wondering:
> 1. to publish, we need to pay
> 2. to read literatures, we need to pay.
> 
> While many of the research articles are funded by government 
> (= public money), but they can only be accessed by 
> subscribers. I heard from a mathematician that they publish 
> their papers on web-based journals for free with peers 
> review.  The readers can add comments on the web-based 
> journals, since many eyes are better than 3 pairs. Many of 
> the Fields Award receivers support the journals. I am 
> interested in hearing discussions in this. For example, is 
> similar trend appearing in computational chemistry? All 
> aspects are appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Yao
> 
> 
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