From owner-chemistry:~at~:ccl.net Thu Nov 17 17:56:00 2005 From: "Brian Salter-Duke b_duke(-)octa4.net.au" To: CCL Subject: CCL: CCL and Google Base or Wikipedia Message-Id: <-29993-051117162808-31265-yglsWpol044Hqvb4SsgMYA..server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Brian Salter-Duke Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:27:35 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Brian Salter-Duke [b_duke]=[octa4.net.au] On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 01:03:54PM -0500, Jim Kress ccl_nospam###kressworks.com wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [ccl_nospam]![kressworks.com] > Except that recent examination has shown Wikipedia to be riddled with > errors, for example: > > http://arstechnica.com/staff/palatine.ars/2005/10/20/1580 > > So, I would be unwilling to rely on it for any serious purpose. The answer with Wikipedia is always "If you find something is incorrect fix it". It is like open source code. While I agree that some areas of Wikipedia are not very good, I think the entries on computational chemistry are reasonable in that they can be fixed and are being fixed. I have made several new entries and corrections to old entries in the last few weeks. Join in. It is fun, and the result will be a worthwhile resource. Particular attention needs to be given to the more elementary topics such as molecular orbitals, VSEPR theory etc. Another worthwhile area is the bibliograpies of people. Look up the entry for the International Academy of Quantum Molecular Science. The list of members is complete, but most do not point to an entry. I added one the other day. There is more to do. If we, the readers of CCL, neglect the Wikipedia entries on CC, it will be unreliable. It does not have to be. Brian. > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dirk Classen-Houben Dirk.Classen-Houben%a%biovertis.com > > [mailto:owner-chemistry{}ccl.net] > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:11 AM > > To: Kress, Jim > > Subject: CCL: CCL and Google Base or Wikipedia > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Dirk Classen-Houben" > > [Dirk.Classen-Houben-.-biovertis.com] > > > > I believe Wikipedia is the better place for such information. > > For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basis_set_%28chemistry%29 > > > > Dirk. > > > > > > > > Dirk Classen-Houben > > > > Biovertis - Information Driven Drug Design AG Campus Vienna > > Biocenter 6 1030 Vienna > > T: +43 1 798 93 03 110 > > F: +43 1 798 93 03 400 > > > > http://www.biovertis.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Thompson thompsma~!~jilau1.colorado.edu > > > [mailto:owner-chemistry!^!ccl.net] > > > Sent: Mittwoch, 16. November 2005 19:25 > > > To: Dirk Classen-Houben > > > Subject: CCL: CCL and Google Base > > > > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: Matt Thompson > > > [thompsma(!)jilau1.colorado.edu] This is sort of a > > meta-question, but > > > I thought I'd ask the list what, if anything, you think we could do > > > with Google Base?: > > > > > > http://base.google.com > > > > > > I can imagine many things could be added to it (basis sets, > > PES, &c.) > > > depending on how well the service can handle that data, but many of > > > those already have a database in one place or another. I > > suppose the > > > best thing would be if some of that data could be bulk-uploaded for > > > easy searching (like many here, I'd guess, I keep a folder of > > > bookmarks that has EMSL, the NIST databases, et al, but one > > central, > > > easily searchable location would be nice). > > > > > > Matt > > > -- > > > The mayfly lives only one day, and sometimes it rains. - Geo. Carlin > > > Matt Thompson -- http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~thompsma/ > > > 440 UCB, Boulder, CO 80309-0440 > > > JILA A510, 303-492-4662 > > > > > > > > > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the > > mailing script > > > =- To recover the email address of the author of the > > message, please > > > change the strange characters on the top line to the !^! > > sign. You can > > > also> > > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > -+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the mailing > > script =- To recover the email address of the author of the > > message, please change the strange characters on the top line > > to the {} sign. You can also look up the X-Original-From: line > > in the mail header.> > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+-+-+-+-+> > > -- Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) b_duke]~[octa4.net.au Post: 626 Melbourne Rd, Spotswood, VIC, 3015, Australia Phone 03-93992847. http://members.iinet.net.au/~linden1/brian/ Honorary Researcher, Chem., Melbourne Univ. & Med. Chem., Monash Univ.