From chemistry-request ^%at%^ server.ccl.net Tue Jul 9 15:50:44 2002 Received: from mail.rpi.edu ([128.113.22.40]) by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g69Joip02931 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:50:44 -0400 Received: from webmail.rpi.edu (webmail.rpi.edu [128.113.26.21]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g69JoeU9129906; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:50:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200207091950.g69JoeU9129906&$at$&mail.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline To: georgehalli#* at *#hotmail.com From: "Dr. N. SUKUMAR" Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Cc: chemistry ^at^ ccl.net X-Originating-Ip: 128.113.135.209 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: "Dr. N. SUKUMAR" Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:50:39 EDT X-Mailer: EMUmail 4.00 Subject: Re: CCL:CHELPG X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Mulliken charges are asigned by apportioning the electrons in the overlap region between two atoms (two center overlap integrals) equally between the atoms, which are then added to the net atomic populations (from the one-center overlap integrals). Like most such schemes, it is an arbitrary scheme for assigning charges (since "atomic charges" are not unambiguously defined, at least outside of Bader's AIM theory). If one wants to reproduce the electrostatic effects of the electron charge distribution in a molecule with reasonable accuracy, without arbitrary parametrization, one can employ either: * a distribution of point charges (i.e. monopoles) fitted to the electrostatic potential -- this is exactly what the CHELPG procedure does; or * a distribution of monopoles, dipoles, quadrupoles and higher-order multipoles -- we have implemented this in a version of our RECON algorithm: Whitehead, Sukumar and Breneman, submitted to J. Comp. Chem. The original reference for CHELPG (CHarges from ELectrostatic Potentials Grid) is: "Determining Atom-Centered Monopoles from Molecular Electrostatic Potentials. The Need for High Sampling Density in Formamide Conformational Analysis" J. Comput. Chem., 11, 361-373 (1990) Curt M. Breneman and Kenneth B. Wiberg Dr. N. Sukumar http://www.drugmining.com/ Rensselaer Department of Chemistry On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:20:56 +0000 "George Hall" wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I wonder if some could point me out what are the differences between > Chelpg > charges and Mulliken. > > Would you please indicate me some references or some advices about the > aproach for these kind of charges. > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > George Hall. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by mailing script =- > CHEMISTRY ":at:" ccl.net -- To Everybody | CHEMISTRY-REQUEST ":at:" ccl.net -- To > Admins > Ftp: ftp.ccl.net | WWW: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/ | Jan: > jkl%!at!%ccl.net >