From tom ^%at%^ sgih.roc.wayne.edu Wed Apr 13 14:12:44 1994 Received: from rocdec.roc.wayne.edu for tom;at;sgih.roc.wayne.edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.4/930601.1506) id OAA28102; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:03:45 -0400 Received: by rocdec.roc.wayne.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05781; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:59:39 -0400 Received: from TomsPowerBook.roc.wayne.edu by sgih.roc.wayne.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/890607.SGI) (for |-at-| rocdec.roc.wayne.edu:chemistry |-at-| ccl.net) id AA03619; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:04:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:04:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9404131804.AA03619 #at# sgih.roc.wayne.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: chemistry ^at^ ccl.net From: tom;at;sgih.roc.wayne.edu (Tom Wiese) Subject: AM1 vs PM3 Charges in CoMFA? Hello Netters, I just read Dr. Holders comments about AM1 vs PM3. What caught my interest the most was that part about PM3 charges being "unreliable". I would like to hear comments from those in the know as to which method of generating charges, AM1 vs PM3, contributes to better/more useful CoMFA models? We have been using PM3 to generate structures and charges for various steroidal estrogens that are used ultimately in CoMFA. Compared to X-ray data, we found that PM3 gives slightly better geometry than AM1 for typical estrogens (Thomas E. Wiese and S. C. Brooks, "Molecular Modeling of Steroid Estrogens: Novel Conformations and Their Role in Biological Activity" in The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, In Press). However, we found AM1 to give very poor geometry of nitro and amino substituted estrogen analogues when compared to PM3. So, to be consistent, we used PM3 for all compounds in the data set and have generated useful CoMFA models. I would also like to know if some body out there has a comment about CoMFA's generated using geometry from PM3 and charges from AM1? Thanks, Tom ################################################## Tom Wiese Brooks Group Department of Biochemistry Wayne State University School of Medicine 540 E. Canfield Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: (313) 577-5605 FAX: (313) 577-2765 email: tom -8 at 8- sgih.roc.wayne.edu ################################################## ##################################################