From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 00:50:01 2021 From: "SUMANGLA ARORA arorasumangla#,#gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How to Visualize NCI Plot Message-Id: <-54410-210622003311-30157-Pn/20sOIH/5Lzl7SEFR2oQ()server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "SUMANGLA ARORA" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:33:10 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "SUMANGLA ARORA" [arorasumangla]=[gmail.com] To CCL Subscribers Dear All, I was trying to visualize NCI analysis by .txt file with Gnuplot. But for this, I need RDG.scatter.gnu. Can you help in providing this script or tell me which keywords will be helpful in making colored NCI plots? Or is there some other way to visualize the NCI plot? Thanks Sumangla Name: Sumangla Email id: arorasumnangla**gmail.com From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 01:25:01 2021 From: "Alma Chen LQChen- -protonmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Classic analog of quantum mechanics when dealing with Hamiltonian oper Message-Id: <-54411-210622005346-3663-uohzEWuFj72l/wF/S18Cjw\a/server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Alma Chen" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:53:44 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Alma Chen" [LQChen-#-protonmail.com] I am reading `The Principles of Quantum Mechanics by Dirac`, in chapter 28 `Heisenberg's form for the equations of motion`, there is a statement about the classic analog about the Hamiltion form between classic mechanics of and quantum mechanics. My questions are: 1. If classic analog means that the Hamiltonian operator is the function of p and q(position and mom), then what is the premise of this assumption? 2. Is there any example of a Hamiltonian that couldn't be expressed as the function of p and q? 3. There is a footnote saying that under Curvilinear coordinates, this assumption is NOT right, so I guess that under Curvilinear coordinates, the classic Hamiltonian form and quantum Hamiltonian form are NOT the same, is there an example of this situation? And why would this happen? From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 04:38:01 2021 From: "John Keller jwkeller#alaska.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How to Visualize NCI Plot Message-Id: <-54412-210622043052-8560-4k0EUdY1aoD4C9YJeSeqxQ]![server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: John Keller Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:30:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: John Keller [jwkeller__alaska.edu]

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= From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 10:29:00 2021 From: "Swaroop Chandra philchemystery/./gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How to Visualize NCI Plot Message-Id: <-54413-210622022429-14836-3hQ1sqbLGWEkS64JajNzDQ===server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Swaroop Chandra Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004eb4b505c554d789" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:02:46 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Swaroop Chandra [philchemystery++gmail.com] --0000000000004eb4b505c554d789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Sumangla, Generating a colour coded NCI plot is quite simple. 1. Foremost, please download Gnuplot from Sourceforge : https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot/files/gnuplot/ (If you haven't already) 2. Installing it is straightforward, just run the .exe file and follow the on-screen instructions. 3. Please download and extract the appropriate version of Multiwfn from here: http://sobereva.com/multiwfn/download.html 4. Find the examples folder within the main Multiwfn folder. 5. Copy the RDGscatter.gnu script available in here, into 'bin' of gnuplot/ 6. Now, you could copy the .txt file that you have which contains the scatter data of the NCI plot, into bin again where you placed RDGscatter.gnu. Also, rename the .txt file as output.txt. (if it isn't so, already) 7. Open CMD (on Windows) and move into the bin within gnuplot. If you have installed gnuplot directly within C:\ the following should work. cd\ cd gnuplot/bin 8. Type "gnuplot RDGscatter.gnu" 9. Once the command line appears again, you would see a file RDGscatter.eps generated just below RDGscatter.gnu within bin. 10. You could use any eps viewer to open and convert RDGscatter.gnu into other image formats. Hope it helps. Warmth Swaroop On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:28 AM SUMANGLA ARORA arorasumangla#,#gmail.com < owner-chemistry{=}ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "SUMANGLA ARORA" [arorasumangla]=[gmail.com] > To > CCL Subscribers > > Dear All, > I was trying to visualize NCI analysis by .txt file with Gnuplot. But for > this, I need RDG.scatter.gnu. Can you help in providing this script or > tell > me which keywords will be helpful in making colored NCI plots? Or is there > some other way to visualize the NCI plot? > > Thanks > Sumangla > > > > Name: Sumangla > Email id: arorasumnangla-*-gmail.com> > > --0000000000004eb4b505c554d789 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Warmth

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--0000000000004eb4b505c554d789-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 18:33:00 2021 From: "Eduardo Lemos de Sa edulsa|-|ufpr.br" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Trying to get rotational radius (gaussian16) Message-Id: <-54414-210622183133-6376-CBtLwQUZYgDmNF2RU8WUrA.:.server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Eduardo Lemos de Sa" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:31:32 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Eduardo Lemos de Sa" [edulsa(~)ufpr.br] Dear I stall with a problem to calculate rotational radius in g16(c.01). At first, I found in output file: Molecular mass: 649.03443 amu. Principal axes and moments of inertia in atomic units: 1 2 3 Eigenvalues -- ****************************** X -0.18621 0.74195 0.64408 Y 0.95290 -0.02334 0.30238 Z -0.23939 -0.67005 0.70266 This molecule is an asymmetric top. Eigenvalues are written as ***** (I guess, it is a problem with number format), but I got principal axes. Is it possible to get eigenvalues from this? Other important point: "moments of inertia in atomic units". I guess mass are in a.m.u (or is in terms of mass of electron?) and distances are in Bohr radio (a_0). Please, am I correct? Further, there are lines bellow: ================================================== Analysis of the Rotor Symmetry ================================================== Framework Group : C1 Rotor Type : Asymmetric Top Asymm. param. : Kappa = -0.406425 Inertia moments : X= 7180.27334 , Y= 4731.16097 , Z= 6224.04915 Representation : IIr Representation, Iy < Iz < Ix Axes Definition for the Symmetric-Top Representation ---------------------------------------------------- Axis Z automatically chosen to be collinear with Y from Eckart orient. NOTE: In Vibro-rotational analysis, this will be referred to as the spectroscopic orientation. Please, is possible to get rotation radius from this inertia moments (there is no clue about units)? I tried: rotat_radius=sqrt(Inertia_X/mass/(a.m.u)) but, as I do not know which are the units for Inertia, I do not know if my results are in angstron or bohr_radio. Please, could you give some hints? Thank you in advance for your attention Yours Eduardo Universidade Federal do Parana/Curitiba/Brazil From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jun 22 21:55:00 2021 From: "Yu Zhai yuzhai_+_mail.huiligroup.org" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Classic analog of quantum mechanics when dealing with Hamiltonian oper Message-Id: <-54415-210622215313-21572-4rueGL44kDMmBcaj4lb2XA]^[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Yu Zhai Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 09:52:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Yu Zhai [yuzhai*mail.huiligroup.org] Dear Alma, Hi. I can give an example of your 3rd question if I did not get you in the wrong way. Watson's Hamiltonian in the field of molecular vibration is not a strict classical-quantal analogue. The Coriolis coupling terms are slightly different... You may like to read James K.G. Watson (1968) Simplification of the molecular vibration-rotation hamiltonian, Molecular Physics, 15:5, 479-490, DOI: 10.1080/00268976800101381 The description is around eq 17 or so. Cheers, Yu Zhai On 6/22/2021 12:53, Alma Chen LQChen- -protonmail.com wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "Alma Chen" [LQChen-#-protonmail.com] > I am reading `The Principles of Quantum Mechanics by Dirac`, in chapter 28 > `Heisenberg's form for the equations of motion`, there is a statement about the > classic analog about the Hamiltion form between classic mechanics of and > quantum mechanics. My questions are: > 1. If classic analog means that the Hamiltonian operator is the function of p > and q(position and mom), then what is the premise of this assumption? > 2. Is there any example of a Hamiltonian that couldn't be expressed as the > function of p and q? > 3. There is a footnote saying that under Curvilinear coordinates, this > assumption is NOT right, so I guess that under Curvilinear coordinates, the > classic Hamiltonian form and quantum Hamiltonian form are NOT the same, is > there an example of this situation? And why would this happen?> >