From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 6 10:31:00 2021 From: "Marc de Wergifosse mdewergifosse()thch.uni-bonn.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: charge transfer in the larger molecule Message-Id: <-54304-210406022354-9030-/pHQS6ay5uO2YkS8kD/WXQ^_^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marc de Wergifosse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5D8B183C-64F5-4913-AF64-6BBA6B154995" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 08:23:44 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Sent to CCL by: Marc de Wergifosse [mdewergifosse],[thch.uni-bonn.de] --Apple-Mail=_5D8B183C-64F5-4913-AF64-6BBA6B154995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Aashish, Perhaps, the first thing to do is to familiarize yourself with the stda = program. Here is the link to the manual = https://github.com/grimme-lab/stda/blob/master/stda_manual.pdf = You need to generate a molden file from your favorite QC program and = then use stda with it. Then, I can help you with charge transfer numbers, just send me a = private email and I will show you how to do so. Best wishes, Marc ____ Dr Marc de Wergifosse Mulliken Center for Theoretical Chemistry Institut f=C3=BCr Physikalische und Theoretische Chemie Universit=C3=A4t Bonn Beringstr. 4 D-53115 Bonn Germany mdewergifosse _ thch.uni-bonn.de > Le 3 avr. 2021 =C3=A0 14:16, Aashish Bhatt = aashish.ph16221+/-inst.ac.in a =C3=A9crit : >=20 > Dear sir, >=20 > Thank you for your elaborate quick response. I have to explore this = area as I am a newcomer here.=20 >=20 > However, it will be very helpful if you can provide introductory = hands-on or tutorials.=20 >=20 > Best regards >=20 > Aashish >=20 > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:59 PM Marc de Wergifosse = mdewergifosse(!)thch.uni-bonn.de = > wrote: >=20 > Sent to CCL by: "Marc de Wergifosse" = [mdewergifosse###thch.uni-bonn.de ] > Dear Aashish, > It is possible to print charge transfer numbers with Theodore script=20= > (https://theodore-qc.sourceforge.io/ = ) coupled to the stda program=20 > (https://github.com/grimme-lab/stda = ). See J. Chem. Phys. 2014, 141, = 024106 and J.=20 > Chem. Phys. 2014, 141, 024107 for information about these numbers. > But this is not coupled with orca.=20 >=20 > If you are interested, I can write you a small howto to show you how = to do it. > I could also implement this easily in stda in the future because = everything is=20 > already there but for response vectors (in RespA see = 10.1021/acs.jctc.0c00990).=20 > It is just a bit of rewriting for excited states. >=20 > Best wishes, > Marc =20 >=20 > > "Aashish Bhatt aashish.ph16221**inst.ac.in " = wrote: > >=20 > > Sent to CCL by: Aashish Bhatt [aashish.ph16221!A!inst.ac.in = ] > > --00000000000055ab5c05bee8499a > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" > >=20 > > I am using orca for the sTD-DFT calculation. I am looking at the = charge > > transfer from one side to another side or vice versa. My system has = 382 > > atoms and it's difficult for me to apply CDFT or Marcus theory to = get > > charge transfer. > > Is there any other way to get a charge transfer or identify the = charge > > source? > >=20 > >=20 > > Best Regards > >=20 > > Aashish > >=20 > > --00000000000055ab5c05bee8499a > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >=20 > >
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Le 3 avr. 2021 =C3=A0 14:16, Aashish Bhatt = aashish.ph16221+/-inst.ac.in = <owner-chemistry _ ccl.net> a =C3=A9crit :

Dear sir,

Thank you for your elaborate quick response. I have to = explore this area  as I am a newcomer here. 

However, it will be very = helpful if you can provide introductory hands-on or = tutorials. 

Best regards

Aashish

On Fri, Apr = 2, 2021 at 8:59 PM Marc de Wergifosse mdewergifosse(!)thch.uni-bonn.de <owner-chemistry%%ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "Marc  de Wergifosse" [mdewergifosse###thch.uni-bonn.de]
Dear Aashish,
It is possible to print charge transfer numbers with Theodore script
(https://theodore-qc.sourceforge.io/) = coupled to the stda program
(https://github.com/grimme-lab/stda). = See J. Chem. Phys. 2014, 141, 024106 and J.
Chem. Phys. 2014, 141, 024107 for information about these numbers.
But this is not coupled with orca.

If you are interested, I can write you a small howto to show you how to = do it.
I could also implement this easily in stda in the future because = everything is
already there but for response vectors (in RespA see = 10.1021/acs.jctc.0c00990).
It is just a bit of rewriting for excited states.

Best wishes,
Marc 

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