From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 24 07:32:00 2014 From: "zhan fei zhanfei:+:ihep.ac.cn" To: CCL Subject: CCL: consult of Guassian about "End of file in GetChg " Message-Id: <-50527-140923214404-19024-sio+KXhBFPkf/hV0+JZjfQ]~[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "zhan fei" Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:44:03 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "zhan fei" [zhanfei*_*ihep.ac.cn] Dear all, I want to do a Guassian td opt of a Pt complex(input file is followed),in the output files it says: Leave Link 107 at Sat Sep 20 17:12:14 2014, MaxMem= 33554432 cpu: 1.0 (Enter D:\G09W\l101.exe) Symbolic Z-matrix: End of file in GetChg. Error termination via Lnk1e in D:\G09W\l101.exe at Sat Sep 20 17:12:14 2014. Job cpu time: 0 days 1 hours 53 minutes 16.0 seconds. File lengths (MBytes): RWF= 247 Int= 0 D2E= 0 Chk= 25 Scr= 1 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 24 11:12:00 2014 From: "Billy McCann thebillywayne_+_gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: consult of Guassian about "End of file in GetChg " Message-Id: <-50528-140924105810-32098-8es0XnHrSoX8juc+EmKsdA a server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Billy McCann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8dd63110b10503d0e956 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:57:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Billy McCann [thebillywayne!A!gmail.com] --089e010d8dd63110b10503d0e956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You may have a malformed input file. Could you post it? -- Billy Wayne McCann, Ph.D. irc://irc.freenode.net:bwayne "A rich man will always desire what his wealth cannot acquire." ~ Faust (Goethe) On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, zhan fei zhanfei:+:ihep.ac.cn < owner-chemistry/a\ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "zhan fei" [zhanfei*_*ihep.ac.cn] > Dear all, > > I want to do a Guassian td opt of a Pt complex(input file is followed),in > the output files it says: > > Leave Link 107 at Sat Sep 20 17:12:14 2014, MaxMem= 33554432 cpu: > 1.0 > (Enter D:\G09W\l101.exe) > > > Symbolic Z-matrix: > End of file in GetChg. > Error termination via Lnk1e in D:\G09W\l101.exe at Sat Sep 20 17:12:14 > 2014. > Job cpu time: 0 days 1 hours 53 minutes 16.0 seconds. > File lengths (MBytes): RWF= 247 Int= 0 D2E= 0 Chk= 25 > Scr= 1> > > --089e010d8dd63110b10503d0e956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You may have a malformed input file.=C2=A0 Could you post it?

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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, zhan fei zh= anfei:+:ihep.ac.cn <= owner-chemistr= y/a\ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "zhan=C2=A0 fei" [zhanfei*_*ihep.ac.cn]
Dear all,

I want to do a Guassian td opt of a Pt complex(input file is followed),in t= he output files it says:

Leave Link=C2=A0 107 at Sat Sep 20 17:12:14 2014, MaxMem=3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0335= 54432 cpu:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.0
=C2=A0(Enter D:\G09W\l101.exe)


=C2=A0Symbolic Z-matrix:
=C2=A0End of file in GetChg.
=C2=A0Error termination via Lnk1e in D:\G09W\l101.exe at Sat Sep 20 17:12:1= 4 2014.
=C2=A0Job cpu time:=C2=A0 0 days=C2=A0 1 hours 53 minutes 16.0 seconds.
=C2=A0File lengths (MBytes):=C2=A0 RWF=3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 247 Int=3D=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 0 D2E=3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 Chk=3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A025 Scr= =3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1



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--089e010d8dd63110b10503d0e956-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 24 17:58:00 2014 From: "Tom Albright talbright1234_-_gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Metal-Carbene sigma type bond Message-Id: <-50529-140924154900-11625-JgQ3z0Koi+41aPndmjrwpw_+_server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Tom Albright Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--510766687 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:48:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Sent to CCL by: Tom Albright [talbright1234{}gmail.com] --Apple-Mail-4--510766687 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sergio - There are many ways that have been used to describe = transition metal - carbene bonding. The bottom line is whether or not = one gets anymore physical insight to "real" molecules. You are not = correct in stating that Schrock-type complexes are more likely for = heavier transition metals. Foe example, there are many Pd or W complexes = which are the Fisher type, i.e. have carbene carbons that are = electrophilic in nature. I would prefer to view these two types as = opposites on a continuum where it is the energetic difference in the = metal d orbitals versus the carbene p AO forming the pi bond which makes = the difference. This is all spelled out fairly clearly (I think) in the = Albright, Burdett, Whangbo "Orbital Interactions in Chemistry" 2nd = Ed.book - complete with plots of the MOs. I am on vacation so I can't = give you the page numbers. On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Sergio Manzetti = sergio.manzetti%%outlook.com wrote: >=20 > Sent to CCL by: "Sergio Manzetti" [sergio.manzetti-.-outlook.com] > Dear Fedor, thanks. I have looked further in the book, and it seems = there are two mechanisms at hand: one Fischer mechanism and one other = the Schrock mechanism. >=20 > The difference between the two, is that one considers the Metal = bonding d-electrons as a singlet, while the other as a triplet. The = singlet gives apparently a "regular" double bond by 4 electrons, pairing = with the carbons 2p2. While the other, has one electron in the dxy and = the other in the dxz, each of these unpaired electrons form a pair with = the unpaired electrons of equally considered carbene in its triplet = state. Eventually, it says that the latter (The Schrock mechanism) is = more for likely for the heavier transition metals, while the Fischer = more likely for light metals, such as Cr and V. >=20 > Your guess on the non-participating 6s2 was right. I take its because = the 6s really has a slightly lower energy than the 5d, at the end of the = day (aufbau). >=20 > Thanks for your tip. I May use software to check it out. >=20 > Sergio >=20 >> From: owner-chemistry .. ccl.net >> To: sergio.manzetti .. gmx.com >> Subject: CCL: Metal-Carbene sigma type bond >> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:46:58 +0200 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent to CCL by: Fedor Goumans [goumans^-^scm.com] >> Hi Sergio, >>=20 >> You may consider using any of the chemical bonding analysis tools out >> there to dig in to the bonding situation (aside from the >> phenomenological Dewar-Chatt-Duncanson model). Or if anything, just = look >> at the Mulliken population analysis. >> My guess is that for tantalum carbene complexes the 6s orbitals will = not >> be occupied at all. >>=20 >> I suggest the thorough paper by Frenking et al. (Chemical bonding in >> transition metal carbene complexes, J. Organomet. Chem. 690, p. >> 6178-6204 (2005)) as a starting point. Most of it is on Cr carbenes, = but >> you can exctend the analysis to group-5 transition metals as well >> ('early TMs'). >>=20 >> Best wishes, >> Fedor >>=20 >> On 9/18/2014 10:44 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti a outlook.com = wrote: >>> Sent to CCL by: "Sergio Manzetti" [sergio.manzetti!=3D!outlook.com] >>> Dear all, I have a question regarding the formation of a sigma-type = bond between Tantalum and the carbene ion. The sigma type bond is = apparently a sp2 hybridized bond. Accounting for the configuration of = carbon, it donates its two 2px electrons which interact with one of the = tantalum 6s? The pi type bond is more clear, it is formed by an empty = 2py of the carbon interacting with one of the 5d electrons. However, if = the sigma type bond is formed by two 2px electrons, where does the = second 6s electron go? >>>=20 >>> Alternatively, this was wrong assumption. >>>=20 >>> Orginally, I was looking for the energy diagram of the sigma type = bond of the Ta=3DCH2, but could not find it. >>>=20 >>> Thanks> >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Dr. T. P. M. (Fedor) Goumans >> Business Developer >> Scientific Computing & Modelling NV (SCM) >> Vrije Universiteit, FEW, Theoretical Chemistry >> De Boelelaan 1083 >> 1081 HV Amsterdam, The Netherlands >> T +31 20 598 7625 >> F +31 20 598 7629 >> E-mail: goumans**scm.com >> http://www.scm.com> >=20 >=20 >=20 > -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = =3D- > To recover the email address of the author of the message, please = change>=20>=20>=20 > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:=20>=20>=20 > Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs=20 > Conferences: = http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ >=20>=20>=20>=20 >=20 With Best Regards Tom Albright --Apple-Mail-4--510766687 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dear = Sergio - There are many ways that have been used to describe transition = metal - carbene bonding. The bottom line is whether or not one gets = anymore physical insight to "real" molecules. You are not correct in = stating that Schrock-type complexes are more likely for heavier = transition metals. Foe example, there are many Pd or W complexes which = are the Fisher type, i.e. have carbene carbons that are electrophilic in = nature. I would prefer to view these two types as opposites on a = continuum where it is the energetic difference in the metal d orbitals = versus the carbene p AO forming the pi bond which makes the difference. = This is all spelled out fairly clearly (I think) in the Albright, = Burdett, Whangbo "Orbital Interactions in Chemistry" 2nd Ed.book - = complete with  plots of the MOs. I am on vacation so I can't give =  you the page numbers.

On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:41 = AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti%%outlook.com wrote:


Sent to CCL by: "Sergio  Manzetti" [sergio.manzetti-.-outlook.co= m]
Dear Fedor, thanks. I have looked further in the book, and it = seems there are two mechanisms at hand: one Fischer mechanism and one = other the Schrock mechanism.

The difference between the two, is = that one considers the Metal bonding  d-electrons as a singlet, = while the other as a triplet. The singlet gives apparently a "regular" = double bond by 4 electrons, pairing with the carbons 2p2. While the = other, has one electron in the dxy and the other in the dxz, each of = these unpaired electrons form a pair with the unpaired electrons of = equally considered carbene in its triplet state. Eventually, it says = that the latter (The  Schrock mechanism) is more for likely for the = heavier transition metals, while the Fischer more likely for light = metals, such as Cr and V.

Your guess on the non-participating 6s2 = was right. I take its because the 6s really has a slightly lower energy = than the 5d, at the end of the day (aufbau).

Thanks for your tip. = I May use software to check it out.

Sergio

From: owner-chemistry .. ccl.net
To: sergio.manzetti .. gmx.com
Subject: CCL: Metal-Carbene sigma type = bond
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 = 13:46:58 +0200


Sent to CCL by: = Fedor Goumans [goumans^-^scm.com]
Hi Sergio,

You may = consider using any of the chemical bonding analysis tools = out
there to dig in to the = bonding situation (aside from the
phenomenological Dewar-Chatt-Duncanson model). Or if = anything, just look
at the = Mulliken population analysis.
My= guess is that for tantalum carbene complexes the 6s orbitals will = not
be occupied at = all.

I suggest the = thorough paper by Frenking et al. (Chemical bonding = in
transition metal carbene = complexes, J. Organomet. Chem. 690, p.
6178-6204 (2005)) as a starting point. Most of it is on Cr = carbenes, but
you can exctend = the analysis to group-5 transition metals as = well
('early = TMs').

Best = wishes,
Fedor

On 9/18/2014 = 10:44 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti a outlook.com = wrote:
Sent to CCL by: "Sergio Manzetti" = [sergio.manzetti!=3D!outlook.com]
Dear all, I have a question = regarding the formation of a sigma-type bond between Tantalum and the = carbene ion. The sigma type bond is apparently a sp2 hybridized bond. = Accounting for the configuration of carbon, it donates its two 2px = electrons which interact with one of the tantalum 6s? The pi type bond = is more clear, it is formed by an empty 2py of the carbon interacting = with one of the 5d electrons. However, if the sigma type bond is formed = by two 2px electrons, where does the second 6s electron = go?

Alternatively, this was wrong = assumption.

Orginally, I was looking for the = energy diagram of the sigma type bond of the Ta=3DCH2, but could not = find it.

Thanks>



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