From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 03:37:00 2006 From: "Mikkel Hansen mihan99(0)student.sdu.dk" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: B3LYP in Gaussian vs. Dalton Message-Id: <-32771-061012033520-18018-QipJIhavG8rYVJbanAZX0w : server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Mikkel Hansen" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:35:20 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Mikkel Hansen" [mihan99 ~~ student.sdu.dk] Hi, I am trying to reproduce published results as an initial task in a project. The results from the paper are calculated in DALTON which is also the program I use. But I cannot seem to reproduce the results and would therefore like to give it a shot in Gaussian 03 just to rule out the fact that the problem is not due to a wrong functional in DALTON - i.e. a bug in the program when the results from the paper was calculated or one which has emerged since. The problem is, however, that the B3LYP functional in Gaussian is not defined the same way as in DALTON. In Gaussian the VWN3 local correlation functional is used while in DALTON the VWN5 functional is used by default. My question is now whether one can choose the VWN5 local correlation functional in Gaussian instead of VWN3? Regards, Mikkel From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 06:10:01 2006 From: "Georg Lefkidis lefkidis|-|physik.uni-kl.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Geometry optimization and links in Gaussian Message-Id: <-32772-061012060330-5829-KMmj1xpvxrvus0y+HrnbmQ-,-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Georg Lefkidis" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:02:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Georg Lefkidis" [lefkidis[a]physik.uni-kl.de] Hi everyone, I have a question about geometry optimization in Gaussian. Usually one does a geometry optimization in one step, and then in a different Link the computation of the desired properties of the final geometry. However sometimes the optimazation step fails. Whenever this is the case the programm stops, and the second step never starts. Is it possible to tell Gaussian to contiue with the next step, even if the geometry optimization is not converged, and simply take the last point as input? Thanx a lot Georg --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Georg Lefkidis E-mail:lefkidis-x-physik.uni-kl.de University of Kaiserslautern Tel. +49 631 205 3207 Department of Physics Fax: +49 631 205 3907 PO Box 3049 67653 Kaiserslautern Germany --------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/06 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 09:04:00 2006 From: "elaine chan 06900535r**polyu.edu.hk" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: request for force field parameters of gaussian 03 Message-Id: <-32773-061010235034-3752-HSWboc7Wh0V/WCo+cpJP2Q!^!server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "elaine chan" <06900535r|,|polyu.edu.hk> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:50:33 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "elaine chan" [06900535r]![polyu.edu.hk] I want to use molecular mechanics (force field parameters) of gaussian 03 to optimize platinium complex with toxin substance. But, I don't know how to create the input file of molecualr mechanics. What parameters and force field parameters should be set up? Elaine Chan E-mail: 06900535r__polyu.edu.hk From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 09:39:00 2006 From: "Volford Andras avolford===chemaxon.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: SMILE to 2D structure Message-Id: <-32774-061011184847-24701-8BGWz6bLCrYazSdRpU+21A(-)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Volford Andras Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030108020106090301050402" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:48:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Volford Andras [avolford^_^chemaxon.com] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030108020106090301050402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, You can convert your SMILES string to various formats (like molfile, xyz, Gaussian cube) using MolConverter. The MolConverter application (http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/doc/user/molconvert.html) is available in the Marvin Beans package that can be dowloaded at the Marvin site http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/ This software tools are free for academic users and non-commercial web sites. Follow this link if you would like to subscribe for the free usage or need more details: http://www.chemaxon.com/licensing.html MarvinSketch, MarvinView, MarvinSpace and MolConverter applications are also free if they are not used as integral parts of other applications. All the best Andras > Subject: CCL: SMILE to 2D structure > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:43:42 -0400 > From: Nehru Viji Shankaran chat2viji#,#gmail.com > > Reply-To: CCL Subscribers > To: Vargyas, Miklos > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Nehru Viji Shankaran" [chat2viji^-^gmail.com] > Dear all, > > I want a program which would convert the SMILE strings (simple)into > 2D structure probably a connection table,z-matrix. > If possible kindly provide me with the source code for it. > > Thanks in advance, > > Nehru viji Shankaran. > > nehruviji|yahoo.co.in > chat2viji|gmail.com.> > > > > --------------030108020106090301050402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

You can convert your SMILES string to various formats (like molfile, xyz, Gaussian cube) using MolConverter. The MolConverter application (http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/doc/user/molconvert.html) is available in the Marvin Beans package that can be dowloaded at the Marvin site http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/
This software tools are free for academic users and non-commercial web sites. Follow this link if you would like to subscribe for the free usage or need more details: http://www.chemaxon.com/licensing.html

MarvinSketch, MarvinView, MarvinSpace and MolConverter applications are also free if they are not used as integral parts of other applications.

All the best
Andras

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       I want a program which would convert the SMILE strings (simple)into 
       2D structure probably a connection table,z-matrix.
       If possible kindly provide me with the source code for it.
   
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--------------030108020106090301050402-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 10:24:00 2006 From: "T-Tsuru coral t-tsuru(_)coral.dti.ne.jp" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Summary) PM3 parameters Message-Id: <-32775-061012102014-19690-ITTQdtb08NrjJge69yAzrA . server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "T-Tsuru coral" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:16:05 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "T-Tsuru coral" [t-tsuru-.-coral.dti.ne.jp] Hello, CCLers. A few days ago I had sent a question to this list, then I got replies. Here is the summary. I think that it is hard to select the parameters and that the description of core-core effect by Gaussians is the key-point of correlation. And the effect also influences the one-center two-electron integrals. ----- Original Question ----- Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: CCL:G: PM3 parameters > > I like to know the parameters which play important roll of electron correlation in > PM3 method. > > I've read Stewart's PM3 paper (J.Comp.Chem. 10, p209, 1989) and know there are > 18 parameters each atom (Hydrogen is 11.) But I can't find suitable parameters from > them. The description of the parameters for electron correlation of this paper is: > In other words, the correlation effects, which in ab initio methods require > extensive calculations of the Meiller-Plesset type, can, at the MNDO level > of approximation, be represented by simple gaussian functions. > > I can't imagine the relationship between the parameters and gaussian functions. > > PM3 is derived from MNDO method. In the point of view of the parameter's meaning, > there are common parameters between PM3 and MNDO. So I've read several articles > of MNDO, but I can't find the suitable description too. > > If you know such PM3 parameters or article description, please teach me. > When I receive the replies, I will summarize them and send to CCL. <<<<< Summary >>>>> - [1] from Dr.Stewart - Although the theoretical description of correlation effects is complicated, and requires a lot of calculations in order to get an accurate result, the same result - a net stabilization - can be achieved using a simple approximation, provided, and this is the catch, the accurate result is known. So semiempirical methods are tailored to reproduce the effect of correlation, but using a simple approximation based on a sum of Gaussians. The Gaussians are used in setting up an atom - atom interaction, based on the nuclei involved, that is, independent of the electrons. This is similar to the "6" part of the L-J 12-6 potential - it reproduces correlation, but without all the M-P math. Of course, crude approximations can't reproduce subtle correlation effects that Moller Plesset calculations can. Jimmy Stewart - [2] from Ed Brothers. - 1) AM1 and PM3 (and subsequent methods) contain modified core-core repulsion functions based on Gaussians. By correctly optimizing these parameters, you could create a core-core interaction that replicates van der Waals distances, etc, effectively mimicking the role of correlation. I believe this is what the quote you attached refers to. 2) HF does poorly for heats of formation, while correlated methods do much better. Since the parameters are fit versus experimental values, the idea is that you get parameters that would approach the values from correlated calculations. For example, in MNDO (and maybe AM1, in PM3 they are optimized if I remember correctly) the one-center two-electron integrals come from experiment, and are lower than analytical values. This lowering is attributed to implicit inclusion of correlation effects in the experimental values. Ed Brothers. Sincerely yours, ---------------------------------------------------- Telkuni Tsuru t-tsuru]~[coral.dti.ne.jp Bunshi Gijyutu From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 10:59:00 2006 From: "Anatoli Korkin a_korkin^_^yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: NGC2007 in Arizona: last call for abstract submission - November 1 1st Message-Id: <-32776-061011111512-15178-GPeGhtM3VydbLUalULyE0w++server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Anatoli Korkin" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:15:12 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Anatoli Korkin" [a_korkin##yahoo.com] Dear Colleagues, This is our last call for the abstracts for the 3rd Nano & Giga Forum in Arizona (NGC2007). The final deadline for the abstract submission is set for November 1st. For details and registration, please visit our conference web site: http://www.AtomicScaleDesign.Net/ngc2007 or http://ngc2007.asu.edu The computational materials section has been traditionally strong at our meetings and we look forward to see the members of CCL Club at our conference in Arizona! Best regards, Anatoli Korkin korkin(AT)nanoandgiga.com From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 11:33:00 2006 From: "Shobe, David David.Shobe:-:sud-chemie.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Geometry optimization and links in Gaussian Message-Id: <-32777-061012103620-1017-KVxv/chnu9XZDecI+fRKAw()server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Shobe, David" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:36:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Shobe, David" [David.Shobe/a\sud-chemie.com] If you have a queuing system, or even the batch-list menu that comes on the Windows versions, you can submit the two parts of the calculation in two different files. For example: abcxyz_opt.gjf followed by abcxyz_prop.gjf Ask yourself though: do you *want* the calculations to continue if the geometry is incorrect? Note especially that anything derived from a freq calculation (vibrational frequencies, zero-point energy, etc.) will be messed up, as Gaussian assumes that the current geometry is a stationary point. --David -----Original Message----- > From: owner-chemistry . ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry . ccl.net] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:12 AM To: Shobe, David Subject: CCL:G: Geometry optimization and links in Gaussian Sent to CCL by: "Georg Lefkidis" [lefkidis[a]physik.uni-kl.de] Hi everyone, I have a question about geometry optimization in Gaussian. Usually one does a geometry optimization in one step, and then in a different Link the computation of the desired properties of the final geometry. However sometimes the optimazation step fails. Whenever this is the case the programm stops, and the second step never starts. Is it possible to tell Gaussian to contiue with the next step, even if the geometry optimization is not converged, and simply take the last point as input? Thanx a lot Georg --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Georg Lefkidis E-mail:lefkidis,+,physik.uni-kl.de University of Kaiserslautern Tel. +49 631 205 3207 Department of Physics Fax: +49 631 205 3907 PO Box 3049 67653 Kaiserslautern Germany --------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/06http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txtThis e-mail message may contain confidential and / or privileged information. If you are not an addressee or otherwise authorized to receive this message, you should not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this e-mail or any information contained in the message. If you have received this material in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 12:09:01 2006 From: "Sherin Alfalah shireen.alfalah{:}yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Free molecular builder Message-Id: <-32778-061012115214-27364-oqEwjiEV4zsx98DZWEnpBg###server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Sherin Alfalah" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:52:14 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Sherin Alfalah" [shireen.alfalah . yahoo.com] Dear CCL users, I am wondering if there is a free and practical molecular builder that runs on Windows linux platforms. It would be very nice if there is one that runs on both platforms at the same time. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Shireen Alfalah PhD student. Alquds University From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 12:44:00 2006 From: "R.Arnab r.arnab]|[gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Mesoscale Simulation Message-Id: <-32779-061012122414-13740-yWapsPZpYetCX9Jp0yoyjg|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "R.Arnab" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:24:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "R.Arnab" [r.arnab%a%gmail.com] Hi, I am planning to do mesoscale simulation of a polymer system. From what i understood that the monomer or part of the monomer is represented as beads to do tha calculation. What i am little confused is 'if i chose a benzene ring to be a bead in a rod like polymer then during mesoscale dynamics how it takes care of the rotation of the ring around the axis of the rod. And this question also leads to the next one for the same reason i.e how to convert the beads to the atomistic model again.' I could not find these details as such anywhere and would appreciate any reference or inputs in this matter. Thanks Arnab From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 15:00:01 2006 From: "Dipesh Risal drisal ~ accelrys.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Free molecular builder Message-Id: <-32780-061012123903-21558-Hp6hDAVydeF86+p5+KCpxw:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Dipesh Risal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005B5C8388257205_=" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:38:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Dipesh Risal [drisal###accelrys.com] This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005B5C8388257205_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Shireen, The Discovery Studio (DS) Visualizer work on both Windows and Linux and is available for free to academic and commercial users. I am unsure of what you mean by "runs on both platforms at the same time" but the DS Visualizer have identical functionality in the two OS's. http://www.accelrys.com/products/downloads/ds_visualizer/ Sincerely, Dipesh Risal, Ph. D. Product Manager, Life Sciences Accelrys, Inc. 10188 Telesis Court, Suite 100 San Diego, CA 92121, U.S.A. Tel: +1 (858) 799 5224, Cell: +1 (858) 414 2702 Fax: +1 (858) 799 5100 email: drisal*o*accelrys.com http://www.accelrys.com Join us at the Accelrys User Meeting & Conference Nov. 13th-15th - Baltimore, Maryland http://www.accelrys.com/user_meeting "Sherin Alfalah shireen.alfalah{:}yahoo.com" Sent by: owner-chemistry*o*ccl.net 10/12/2006 09:17 AM Please respond to "CCL Subscribers" To "Risal, Dipesh " cc Subject CCL: Free molecular builder Sent to CCL by: "Sherin Alfalah" [shireen.alfalah . yahoo.com] Dear CCL users, I am wondering if there is a free and practical molecular builder that runs on Windows linux platforms. It would be very nice if there is one that runs on both platforms at the same time. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Shireen Alfalah PhD student. Alquds Universityhttp://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt-- Click on the link below to report this email as spam https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/moL2TEWXkzY07ZOOPazWJnHYmVfN8dceLF0YAs6Cp59vh1F55mpug!WcEM55z!IUTEo5jxyBLkmSiFIPGUjNKzcwpLI0tKIHDAozkamvTBkfurBBVJEmTXXZmNSh4Gx9lP9HGKpdekeI89N3YfGSQV4IkOC9bM3PeTJFDQxGr3VFq0WXKDpAOCpD+LY7wcSH6m5LBCnP!M48L31x9esgO6C8nK3p6uY3 --=_alternative 005B5C8388257205_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
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--=_alternative 005B5C8388257205_=-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 15:35:00 2006 From: "Chunhui Li lixxx667|*|umn.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: substructure searching for two smile strings Message-Id: <-32781-061012131511-13441-ADPZSnZBydNLOQx1ls+izg_._server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Chunhui Li" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:15:11 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Chunhui Li" [lixxx667[A]umn.edu] Hi, I have two smile strings and would like to know if the one is the other one's substructure. Could you please let me know what would be the best solution to this? any software available or I have to write my own code for this? thanks a lot, Lily From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 19:05:00 2006 From: "Szabolcs Csepregi scsepregi%a%chemaxon.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: substructure searching for two smile strings Message-Id: <-32782-061012190001-32452-Hgdlu5HBfHy3gjjzmxJz7g:_:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Szabolcs Csepregi Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:05:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Szabolcs Csepregi [scsepregi*|*chemaxon.com] Hi Lily, You can use this web page: http://www.chemaxon.com/jchem/examples/sss/index.jsp Just copy-paste your smiles strings into the Marvin applets and press "Search" Alternatively, you can use the jcsearch command-line tool from the JChem package: http://www.chemaxon.com/jchem/doc/user/Jcsearch.html You can apply for the free academic package here: http://www.chemaxon.com/forum/ftopic193.html I hope this helps. Szabolcs Szabolcs Csepregi, PhD Director of Search Technologies, ChemAxon Ltd. http://www.chemaxon.com Skype: szabolcs.csepregi Tel: +36 1 3878564 Cell: +36 20 4219863 Fax: +36 1 4532659 Chunhui Li lixxx667|*|umn.edu wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "Chunhui Li" [lixxx667[A]umn.edu] > Hi, > > I have two smile strings and would like to know if the one is the other one's substructure. Could you please let me know what would be the best solution to this? any software available or I have to write my own code for this? > > thanks a lot, > > Lily > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 19:40:00 2006 From: "Paul.Czodrowski(!)staff.uni-marburg.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: New Approaches in Drug Design & Discovery - Conference Announcement Message-Id: <-32783-061012180736-14994-OuMcYGARiJ2Q5zBbaq6h5w]_[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Paul.Czodrowski.:.staff.uni-marburg.de Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:29:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Paul.Czodrowski{}staff.uni-marburg.de Dear CCLers, we would like to post the following conference announcement: The 5th Intl. Workshop on New Approaches in Drug Design & Discovery will be held in Schloss Rauischholzhausen, near Marburg, Germany, > from Monday, March 26, to Thursday, March 29, 2007. The title of the workshop this year is "Merging Chemical & Biological Space". Any further information regarding the program and the registration procedure, as well as accommodation and location can be found at the following website: http://www.agklebe.de/workshop2007 Deadline for pre-registration is Dec-01-2006. Early submission of the online application form is highly recommended since no more than 90 participants can be accepted. Sincerly, Paul Czodrowski From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 20:15:01 2006 From: "Geoffrey Hutchison grh25*cornell.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: substructure searching for two smile strings Message-Id: <-32784-061012193655-30057-EsrbTOuQoObhzitdoXSUTg#,#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Geoffrey Hutchison Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:36:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Sent to CCL by: Geoffrey Hutchison [grh25###cornell.edu] Hi Chunhui, Well, for almost all SMILES strings, they're also SMARTS patterns. So, for example, you can use this property to see if the shorter string (the obvious substructure candidate) matches as a SMARTS pattern for the longer SMILES molecule. You don't mention if this is a task you wish to automate (e.g., you have a list of paired SMILES patterns to test for this property) or if it's just one SMILES to test against another. If it's the latter, it's quite easy to use a SMILES string as a SMARTS pattern against a list of SMILES or other molecules using Open Babel's "obgrep" tool: http://openbabel.sourceforge.net/wiki/obgrep If you intend to automate this, I suggest writing some code. But using Open Babel, it's quite easy to write this sort of thing in C++. In fact, it's the basis of a set of tests -- make sure a SMILES string matches itself using SMARTS. I'd be glad to send you sample code. Cheers, -Geoff -- -Dr. Geoffrey Hutchison Cornell University, Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology Abruņa Group http://abruna.chem.cornell.edu/ On Oct 12, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Chunhui Li lixxx667|*|umn.edu wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "Chunhui Li" [lixxx667[A]umn.edu] > Hi, > > I have two smile strings and would like to know if the one is the > other one's substructure. Could you please let me know what would > be the best solution to this? any software available or I have to > write my own code for this? > > thanks a lot, > > Lily > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the mailing > script =- > To recover the email address of the author of the message, please > change> Conferences: http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/ > conferences/ > > Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/htdig (login: ccl, Password: > search)> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+ > > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Oct 12 22:35:01 2006 From: "zhijian WU zjwu|,|ciac.jl.cn" To: CCL Subject: CCL: solid molecular N2 Message-Id: <-32785-061012222905-32349-rNabDCjNpjqL7SYZZ8JKWQ:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "zhijian WU" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:29:16 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "zhijian WU" [zjwu a ciac.jl.cn] Hi, Does anybody know the cell constants and fractional coordinates of solid molecular N2 (nitrogen gas) in alpha-phase? I have found one with epsilon-phase, beta-phase, but still need the parameters in alpha-phase. Thank you very much in advance for your help. Regards, Sincerely, -- Z. J. Wu