From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sun Jul 1 07:31:01 2018 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal victor_+_fluor.quimica.uniovi.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Cl became unbonded after DFT GO Message-Id: <-53366-180701072445-28500-0zVRC7s7OZUi+F5zxCSkxw++server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:24:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal [victor||fluor.quimica.uniovi.es] * Ghazwan Fadhil ghazwan_fadhil a yahoo.co.uk [2018-06-30 02:54:15 -0400]: > > Sent to CCL by: "Ghazwan Fadhil" [ghazwan_fadhil---yahoo.co.uk] > I am doing geometry optimization using Gaussian 09 software to a fused > cyclic rings with chlorine atom on fused carbon atom. The DFT with 6-311G > dp(++) and ab initio give optimized structure with no negative frequency > but the chlorine atom got elongated and became unbonded. However, GO with > semi-empirical PM 6 does not give such elongation and un-bonded chlorine > is not observed, i.e. normal result obtained. I request explanation and a > suggestion to overcome this problem. Fadhil, Knowing the compound you try to examine would be most helpful and aomeone could think on your problem. You have several options to presents your problem: 1) Provide your initial geometry from the gaussian input. 2) Provide a regular chemical formulation of your compund. 3) Provide a smiles (or similar) description of your compound. My proposed best options is (3). If you are not familiar about what smiles is think of a graph based language that describe the traditional bonding patterns in a compound. For instance "c1ccccc1" desscribes benzene. In wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/) you may find smiles for *many* compounds. See, for instance and show the smiles code for caffeine: "CN1C=NC2=C1C(=O)N(C(=O)N2C)C". Molecular geometry tools like avogadro recognize the smiles code, and I find it useful as the initial geometry for an optimization. Avogadro's capabilities are based on open babel, so many computational tools can use the same. Best regards, Víctor Luaña -- . . One should not treat others in ways that one would not like / `' \ to be treated /(o)(o)\ (Golden rule of ethics) /`. \/ .'\ / '`'` \ "Freedom!, freedom!, freedom! After that put whatever | \'`'`/ | term you like" | |'`'`| | --Largo Caballero (socialist, spanish president in the exile, \/`'`'`'\/ shortly before dying) ==(((==)))===================================+ A person is slave of his words ! Dr.Víctor Luaña, in silico chemist & prof. ! and owner of his silences. ! Departamento de Química Física y Analítica ! ! Universidad de Oviedo, 33006-Oviedo, Spain ! "Never let your sense of morals ! e-mail: ! prevent you from doing what is ! phone: +34-984080927 fax: +34-985103125 ! right." +--------------------------------------------+ -- Salvor Hardin, "Foundation" GroupPage: Articles: git-hub: ORCID: 0000-0003-4585-4627; RID: H-2045-2015