From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Feb 24 03:08:00 2014 From: "Michel Petitjean petitjean.chiral[#]gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Molecular shape index values Message-Id: <-49797-140224030655-5878-itSRKv7pqo9GdqlhdUFvjQ+*+server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Michel Petitjean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:06:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Michel Petitjean [petitjean.chiral||gmail.com] What do you mean by the "molecular shape for the benzene derivatives" ? There are many shape descriptors, and the ones to retain depend on why you need them (e.g. the shape may be a sphere, a cylinder, a convex polyhedron, etc.) RADI computes several ones: look at the bottom of http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.freeware.html Best regards, Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail: petitjean.chiral()gmail.com (preferred), michel.petitjean()univ-paris-diderot.fr http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html 2014-02-23 19:44 GMT+01:00 bellifa khadidja kbellifa-.-yahoo.com : > > Sent to CCL by: "bellifa khadidja" [kbellifa[*]yahoo.com] > What is the best method (experimental, theoritical) to obtain the molecular shape for the benzene derivatives? From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Feb 24 09:08:00 2014 From: "kathryn emily kellett k.kellett _ herts.ac.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Energy conformers for ligands in bund protein structures Message-Id: <-49798-140224063950-32622-0imtK0aZiFMDCmXYUEed4g~~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "kathryn emily kellett" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 06:39:44 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "kathryn emily kellett" [k.kellett]=[herts.ac.uk] I am trying to find a way of comparing the energy of my ligand in my protein from the PDB with a minimum energy conformation in vacuo. Does anyone know any way of doing this using either Maestro (for which I have a licence) or using freely accessible software. I want to make sure I am comparing like with like, ie both in vacuo rather then orientation in crysal structure with solvation energies taken into account. thanks, Katy k.kellett~~herts.ac.uk From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Feb 24 09:43:00 2014 From: "Juliette Pradon pradon+*+ccdc.cam.ac.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Docking and covalent bonds Message-Id: <-49799-140224085218-19444-UNx87URgxW7cVfCZQnK2iA]-[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Juliette Pradon" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:52:11 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Juliette Pradon" [pradon###ccdc.cam.ac.uk] Dear Jim, You are right in that GOLD has a covalent docking capacity. To model binding/unbinding (i.e. a chemical reaction), however, requires electrons to be able to move, and for this process a quantum mechanics model is required. This is not possible with GOLD or with any other software from the Cambridge Crystallographic Data Centre. Best regards, Juliette Pradon. >Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35!^!gmail.com] >While I am aware there is a covalent bonding "capability" in AutoDock >and >GOLD, is there any information about the quality of its description of the >covalent bonding process (making and breaking bonds)? >Any references would be appreciated. >Thanks. >Jim