From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 00:07:00 2011 From: "Eli Lam elizabeth.shlam a gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Computation and quantum yield Message-Id: <-44994-110629000405-19685-nzeXCRrDdzyEbVeo7mHnaw#%#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Eli Lam" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 00:04:03 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Eli Lam" [elizabeth.shlam .. gmail.com] Hi CCLers, It may sound silly but I'm just curious, is it possible to predict the quantum yield of a molecule by computational methods such as dft? Thank you! Eli From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 00:56:00 2011 From: "Hao-Bo Guo guohaobo/a\gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Computation and quantum yield Message-Id: <-44995-110629005455-30826-862VEDOYFbUERS9ntaaudQ[]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Hao-Bo Guo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c6ee39ba7804a6d29576 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 00:54:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Hao-Bo Guo [guohaobo,gmail.com] --20cf3071c6ee39ba7804a6d29576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Eli, To my understanding, the quantum yield depends on the medium the target locates, amplitude/wavelength/polarizability of the quantum source etc ... It is predictable via some sophisticated model that is out of my knowledge, other than the ab initio or DFT calculations. But the calculations can predict, e.g., the absorption/diffraction/fluorescence/CD spectra that might be related. Hao-Bo On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Eli Lam elizabeth.shlam a gmail.com < owner-chemistry-*-ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Eli Lam" [elizabeth.shlam .. gmail.com] > Hi CCLers, > > It may sound silly but I'm just curious, is it possible to predict the > quantum yield of a molecule > by computational methods such as dft? > > Thank you! > > Eli> > > --20cf3071c6ee39ba7804a6d29576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eli,

To my understanding, the quantum yield dep= ends on the medium the target locates, amplitude/wavelength/polarizability = of the quantum source etc ... It is predictable via some sophisticated mode= l that is out of my knowledge, other than the ab initio or DFT calculations= . But the calculations can predict, e.g., the absorption/diffraction/fluore= scence/CD spectra that might be related.

Hao-Bo

On Wed, Jun 29, 201= 1 at 12:04 AM, Eli Lam elizabeth.shlam a gmail= .com <o= wner-chemistry-*-ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "Eli =A0Lam" [elizabeth.shlam .. gmail.com]
Hi CCLers,

It may sound silly but I'm just curious, is it possible to predict the = quantum yield of a molecule
by computational methods such as dft?

Thank you!

Eli



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--20cf3071c6ee39ba7804a6d29576-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 02:53:00 2011 From: "Ermias Girma leggesse ermiaslegg!^!gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Radical anion Message-Id: <-44996-110629025140-6329-o2LRqvua0b2E4Hx9jgDl1A(-)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Ermias Girma leggesse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c675d03d6d604a6d43784 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:51:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Ermias Girma leggesse [ermiaslegg-*-gmail.com] --0016364c675d03d6d604a6d43784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Mikael J.; Could you explain it more? I know that SDx = NPA(beta)x - NPA(alpha)x, but how do i locate NPA(alpha) and NPA(beta) from NBO output? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mikael Johansson mikael.johansson]=[iki.fi wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Mikael Johansson [mikael.johansson^iki.fi] > > Dear Sergio and All, > > The spin density difference between a neutral and anionic species is _not_ > in general a good measure of "where" the added electron got distributed. > Instead, one should look directly at the total charge density difference. > Especially with metal atoms in the system, the differences between spin > density and charge density of neutral/anion can be very different. > > Of course, the original poster might actually be interested in the spin > density, and not the charge density difference... > > Have a good midsummer, > Mikael J. > http://www.iki.fi/~mpjohans/ > > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Sergio Emanuel Galembeck segalemb~~usp.br wrote: > > >> Sent to CCL by: Sergio Emanuel Galembeck [segalemb*_*usp.br] >> >> Dear Mico, >> >> The location of the extra electron could be found in the spin >> density matrix, or density of alpha minus beta electrons. >> To calculate a radical anion you need to specify charge = -1 >> and multiplicity = 2. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Sergio >> >> Citando "Mico Leggesse ermiaslegg{}gmail.com" > >: >> >> >>> Sent to CCL by: "Mico Leggesse" [ermiaslegg,gmail.com] >>> Dear All; >>> Can any one tell me how i could locate the additional electron in the >>> radical >>> anion using Gaussian 09 package? also could you tell me how i should >>> proceed if >>> i want to study the addition of one electron to this radical anion? >>> Thank You in advance!http://www.ccl.net/**chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml >>> > >>> >> Job: http://www.ccl.net/**jobsConferences: >> http://server.ccl.net/**chemistry/announcements/**conferences/ http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/**ccl/send_ccl_message http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/**ccl/send_ccl_message chemistry/announcements/**conferences/ > > > Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/**searchccl/index.shtml http://www.ccl.net/spammers.**txt > > RTFI: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/**aboutccl/instructions/ > > > -- Ermias Girma Leggesse PhD Student, NTUST, Chemical Engeenering Computational Chemistry Lab Taipei, 106, Taiwan (ROC) Tel: +886917794140 --0016364c675d03d6d604a6d43784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear=A0Mikael J.;
Could you explain it more? I know that=A0SDx=A0=3D NPA(be= ta)x=A0- NPA(alpha)x, but how do i locate=A0= NPA(alpha) and=A0NPA(beta) from NBO outp= ut?

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mikael Joh= ansson mikael.johansson]=3D[iki.fi <owner-chemistry::ccl= .net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Mikael Johansson [mikael.johansson^iki.fi]

Dear Sergio and All,

The spin density difference between a neutral and anionic species is _not_ = in general a good measure of "where" the added electron got distr= ibuted. Instead, one should look directly at the total charge density diffe= rence. Especially with metal atoms in the system, the differences between s= pin density and charge density of neutral/anion can be very different.

Of course, the original poster might actually be interested in the spin den= sity, and not the charge density difference...

Have a good midsummer,
=A0 =A0Mikael J.
=A0 =A0http://w= ww.iki.fi/~mpjohans/


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Sergio Emanuel Galembeck segalemb~~usp.br wrote:


Sent to CCL by: Sergio Emanuel Galembeck [segalemb*_*usp.br]

Dear Mico,

=A0The location of the extra electron could be found in the spin
density matrix, or density of alpha minus beta electrons.
=A0To calculate a radical anion you need to specify charge =3D -1
and multiplicity =3D 2.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Best regards,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Sergio

Citando "Mico Leggesse ermiaslegg{}gmail.com" <owner-chemistry---ccl.net>:


Sent to CCL by: "Mico =A0Leggesse" [ermiaslegg,gmail.com]
Dear All;
Can any one tell me how i could locate the additional electron in the radic= al
anion using Gaussian 09 package? also could you tell me how i should procee= d if
i want to study the addition of one electron to this radical anion?
Thank You in advance!http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml>



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--0016364c675d03d6d604a6d43784-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 03:28:00 2011 From: "Nichodemus Maria Arockiam mnichodemus_+_yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Gaussian Keywords Message-Id: <-44997-110629032340-321-5s0h/w8IAthsSxOVBjp/GQ++server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Nichodemus Maria Arockiam" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:23:38 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Nichodemus Maria Arockiam" [mnichodemus^yahoo.com] Dear Friens, First of all i thank to Henry Martinez,University of Florida. i am the beginner in using Gaussian 03 programme.Can anybody give me a collection of route selection line of the input file.thanks in advance. Nichodemus M From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 04:37:02 2011 From: "Visvaldas K. coyote_v2002 a yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: keeping variables constant in gamess Message-Id: <-44998-110629033200-22234-x/MfsrppDozGCbGMEPqcTQ(!)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Visvaldas K." Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Visvaldas K." [coyote_v2002^yahoo.com] Dear Kails, Check IFREEZ keyword in $STATPT. Good luck, Vis --- On Tue, 6/28/11, kails dand kails.dand ~ yahoo.com wrote: > From: kails dand kails.dand ~ yahoo.com > Subject: CCL: keeping variables constant in gamess > To: "Kairys, Visvaldas " > Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 7:57 PM > > Sent to CCL by: "kails  dand" > [kails.dand]^[yahoo.com] > Dear all, > I am trying to fix some geometric parameters while > optimizing using zmatrix in gamess. I have no idea how to do > this. Could you please help me out. Your help is greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks > > Kails > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the > mailing script =- > To recover the email address of the author of the message, > please change > the strange characters on the top line to the -x- sign. You > can also> > E-mail to subscribers: CHEMISTRY-x-ccl.net > or use: >      > > E-mail to administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST-x-ccl.net > or use >      >      >      > > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 07:57:00 2011 From: "Marcel Brautzsch marcel.brautzsch+/-student.uni-halle.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Gaussian Keywords Message-Id: <-44999-110629052216-10571-sSf71vWAguoQUUQXXAHEzw%%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Marcel Brautzsch" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 05:22:13 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Marcel Brautzsch" [marcel.brautzsch++student.uni-halle.de] Hello Nichodemus, not exactly for g03 but nevertheless a very good introduction to Gaussian is provided by J. B. Foresman in: J. B. Foresman and . Frisch, Exploring Chemistry with Electronic Structure Methods, 2nd ed. (Gaussian, Inc., Pittsburgh, PA, 1996). There are also some basic examples with usage auf Gauss View in: http://scienide2.uwaterloo.ca/~nooijen/Chem-440-computational/ (there is a tilde sign in front of nooijen which is hopefully not deleted by the subscription form) You can also find some examples in the example section of the keywords in the Gaussian03 manual (http://www.gaussian.com/g_ur/g03mantop.htm). best regards, Marcel Brautzsch > "Nichodemus Maria Arockiam mnichodemus_+_yahoo.com" wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Nichodemus Maria Arockiam" [mnichodemus^yahoo.com] > Dear Friens, > First of all i thank to Henry Martinez,University of Florida. > i am the beginner in using Gaussian 03 programme.Can anybody give me a collection of route selection line of the input file.thanks in advance. > Nichodemus M > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 08:32:00 2011 From: "P.Canepa pc229+*+kent.ac.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: J-ICE the 1st on-line viewer for Crystallographic and Electronic properties and OS independent Message-Id: <-45000-110629073549-5134-aeTrdN+rTgqQuOSQkFX43w~!~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "P.Canepa" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:35:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "P.Canepa" [pc229++kent.ac.uk] Dear All, I would like to share among you a graphic interface I have been working on for a while called J-ICE. J-ICE is the 1st on-line viewer for Crystallographic and Electronic properties. This interface is suited to deal with popular condensed matter codes such as CRYSTAL, CASTEP, FHI-aims, GULP, MaterialStudio, QuantumEspresso, VASP, WIEN2k, but also famous molecular programs like GAUSSIAN, GROMACS and many other formats. Please, check it out here http://j-ice.sourceforge.net/ . Other main features of J-ICE : 1) free of cost 2) Operative system independent. It runs on WINDOWS, LINUX and Mac OSX 3) easy to use 4) 100 % compatible with Jmol Bests, Piero -- Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Pieremanuele Canepa Room 104 Functional Material Group School of Physical Sciences, Ingram Building, University of Kent, Canterbury, Kent, CT2 7NH United Kingdom e-mail: pc229**kent.ac.uk mobile: +44 (0) 7772-9756456 ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 09:07:00 2011 From: "syed aleem aleem3176]*[gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Radical anion Message-Id: <-45001-110629061338-20459-jaEmQoKaxaNeptGDzKHjhA]![server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: syed aleem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e82e225567104a6d70922 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:43:28 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: syed aleem [aleem3176(a)gmail.com] --90e6ba6e82e225567104a6d70922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HI all !! Can some buddy tell how we could specify the charge on the specific atom in a molecule ?. I mean, suppose if we have three target atoms in a molecule, on which I wanted to locate +1 charge on two atoms and 0 on the rest atom ?? Further, In assigning non standard basis sets ("different basis sets for different atoms") for atoms in a molecule. what does '0' implies in H C N O S 0 <--------- ?? 6-31G** and Pd 0 <-------------?? ECP28MWB 4 28 Thanks in advance for ur help in advance !! Aleem School of Chemistry University of Hyderabad Inidia On 29 June 2011 12:21, Ermias Girma leggesse ermiaslegg!^!gmail.com < owner-chemistry..ccl.net> wrote: > Dear Mikael J.; > Could you explain it more? I know that SDx = NPA(beta)x - NPA(alpha)x, but > how do i locate NPA(alpha) and NPA(beta) from NBO output? > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mikael Johansson mikael.johansson]=[ > iki.fi wrote: > >> >> Sent to CCL by: Mikael Johansson [mikael.johansson^iki.fi] >> >> Dear Sergio and All, >> >> The spin density difference between a neutral and anionic species is _not_ >> in general a good measure of "where" the added electron got distributed. >> Instead, one should look directly at the total charge density difference. >> Especially with metal atoms in the system, the differences between spin >> density and charge density of neutral/anion can be very different. >> >> Of course, the original poster might actually be interested in the spin >> density, and not the charge density difference... >> >> Have a good midsummer, >> Mikael J. >> http://www.iki.fi/~mpjohans/ >> >> >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Sergio Emanuel Galembeck segalemb~~usp.br wrote: >> >> >>> Sent to CCL by: Sergio Emanuel Galembeck [segalemb*_*usp.br] >>> >>> Dear Mico, >>> >>> The location of the extra electron could be found in the spin >>> density matrix, or density of alpha minus beta electrons. >>> To calculate a radical anion you need to specify charge = -1 >>> and multiplicity = 2. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Sergio >>> >>> Citando "Mico Leggesse ermiaslegg{}gmail.com" >> >: >>> >>> >>>> Sent to CCL by: "Mico Leggesse" [ermiaslegg,gmail.com] >>>> Dear All; >>>> Can any one tell me how i could locate the additional electron in the >>>> radical >>>> anion using Gaussian 09 package? also could you tell me how i should >>>> proceed if >>>> i want to study the addition of one electron to this radical anion? >>>> Thank You in advance!http://www.ccl.net/**chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml >>>> > >>>> >>> Job: http://www.ccl.net/**jobsConferences: >>> http://server.ccl.net/**chemistry/announcements/**conferences/> E-mail to subscribers: CHEMISTRY^-^ccl.net or use: >> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/**ccl/send_ccl_message >> >> E-mail to administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST^-^ccl.net or use >> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/**ccl/send_ccl_message >> **http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/**sub_unsub.shtmlConferences: http://server.ccl.net/** >> chemistry/announcements/**conferences/ >> >> >> Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/**searchccl/index.shtml >> ** http://www.ccl.net/spammers.**txt >> >> RTFI: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/**aboutccl/instructions/ >> >> >> > > > -- > > Ermias Girma Leggesse > > PhD Student, NTUST, Chemical Engeenering > > Computational Chemistry Lab > > Taipei, 106, Taiwan (ROC) > Tel: +886917794140 > --90e6ba6e82e225567104a6d70922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI all !!

Can some buddy tell how we could specify the charge on the= specific atom in a molecule ?. I mean, suppose if we have three=A0 target = atoms in a molecule, on which I wanted to locate +1 charge on two atoms and= 0 on the rest atom ??

Further, In assigning non standard basis sets ("different basis se= ts for different atoms") for atoms in a molecule. what does '0'= ; implies in
=A0=A0
H C N O S 0=A0 <--------- ??
6-31G**
<= br> and

Pd 0=A0=A0=A0 <-------------??
ECP28MWB 4 28

Thank= s in advance for ur help in advance !!

Aleem
School of Chemistry<= br>University of Hyderabad
Inidia

On 2= 9 June 2011 12:21, Ermias Girma leggesse ermiaslegg!^!gmail.com <owner-chemistry..ccl.net> wrote:
Dear=A0Mikael J.;=
Could you explain it more? I know that=A0SDx<= span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">= =A0=3D NPA(beta)x=A0- NPA(alpha)x, but how do i locate=A0NPA(alpha) and=A0NPA(beta) from NBO output?=

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mikael Joh= ansson mikael.johansson]=3D[iki= .fi <owner-chemistry^-^ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Mikael Johansson [mikael.johansson^iki.fi]

Dear Sergio and All,

The spin density difference between a neutral and anionic species is _not_ = in general a good measure of "where" the added electron got distr= ibuted. Instead, one should look directly at the total charge density diffe= rence. Especially with metal atoms in the system, the differences between s= pin density and charge density of neutral/anion can be very different.

Of course, the original poster might actually be interested in the spin den= sity, and not the charge density difference...

Have a good midsummer,
=A0 =A0Mikael J.
=A0 =A0http:/= /www.iki.fi/~mpjohans/


On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Sergio Emanuel Galembeck segalemb~~usp.br wrote:


Sent to CCL by: Sergio Emanuel Galembeck [segalemb*_*usp.br]

Dear Mico,

=A0The location of the extra electron could be found in the spin
density matrix, or density of alpha minus beta electrons.
=A0To calculate a radical anion you need to specify charge =3D -1
and multiplicity =3D 2.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Best regards,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Sergio

Citando "Mico Leggesse ermiaslegg{}gmail.com" <owner-chemistry---ccl.net>:


Sent to CCL by: "Mico =A0Leggesse" [ermiaslegg,gmail.com]
Dear All;
Can any one tell me how i could locate the additional electron in the radic= al
anion using Gaussian 09 package? also could you tell me how i should procee= d if
i want to study the addition of one electron to this radical anion?
Thank You in advance!http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml>



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--90e6ba6e82e225567104a6d70922-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 11:24:00 2011 From: "Bonoit Bonoit bonoit_10++yahoo.fr" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Free Energy G Message-Id: <-45002-110629112302-17428-WOUg5Q6ah49O61CwHMBWrg-,-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Bonoit Bonoit" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:23:00 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Bonoit Bonoit" [bonoit_10 ~~ yahoo.fr] Dear CCLers, Thank you for your replies about the meaning of negative values of entropy S. I'm writing to enquire about the zero value of free energy of simple pur molecule as H2 (hydrogen for example). Why it has a zero value whereas the entropy is not equal to zero? since we know that G=H-TS??? Thank you in advance Sincerely, Bonoit From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 14:31:00 2011 From: "Vijay Solomon vijaysolomon_2005 ~~ yahoo.co.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Theoritical emision spectroscopy using gaussian09 Message-Id: <-45003-110629134835-18726-dMdfNmI/oQl/rLPGlQw1eg:-:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Vijay Solomon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-613083621-1309369704=:77587" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:18:24 +0530 (IST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Vijay Solomon [vijaysolomon_2005(0)yahoo.co.in] --0-613083621-1309369704=:77587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Marcel Brautzsch & other CCLrs,=0A=0A = I would like to extend the =0Aquestion along with the p= revious question asked by Debasish Manda, actually =0Athanks to marcel for = his answer, and i tried to work out this example, and now i =0Ahave doubt, = in this step, in what basis we have to change the coordinates in =0Aorder t= o brake the symmetry. in this case they have changed the dihedral angle, = =0Abut for my molecule which one will be correct, whether change of dihedra= l angle =0Aor angle or any bond length, etc. or any rule of thumb is there?= your =0Asuggestions are welcome. =0A =0Athanking you=0A=0Avijay solomon.= R=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AStep 4: Relaxation of t= he excited state geometry. Next, we perform a TD-DFT =0Ageometry optimizati= on, with equilibrium, linear response solvation, in order to =0Afind the mi= nimum energy point on the excited state potential energy surface. =0ASince = this is a TD-DFT optimization, the program defaults to equilibrium =0Asolva= tion. As is typical of such cases, the molecule has a plane of symmetry in = =0Athe ground state but the symmetry is broken in the excited state, so the= ground =0Astate geometry is perturbed slightly to break symmetry at the st= art of the =0Aoptimization.=0A%chk=3D04-ac # B3LYP/6-31+G(d,p) TD=3D(Read,N= States=3D6,Root=3D1) SCRF=3D(Solvent=3DEthanol) =0AGeom=3DModify Guess= =3DRead Opt=3DRCFC Acetaldehyde: excited state opt Modify geometry =0Ato b= reak Cs symmetry since first excited state is A" 0 1 4 1 2 3 10.0 5 1 2 = 7 =0A-50.0 =0A wherever you go leave your best and the best will follow you= =0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AVijay Solomon.R=0AResearch Scho= lar,=0ATheoretical & Computational Chemistry Laboratory =0ABharathidasan Un= iversity,=0ATiruchirappalli,=0ATamil Nadu,=0AINDIA.=0Amore details http://= vjsolo.weebly.com=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__= ______________________________=0AFrom: Marcel Brautzsch marcel.brautzsch+/-= student.uni-halle.de =0A=0ATo: "Solomon, Vijay -id= #36u-" =0ASent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 4:44:40 P= M=0ASubject: CCL:G: Theoritical emision spectroscopy using gaussian09=0A=0A= =0ASent to CCL by: "Marcel Brautzsch" [marcel.brautzsch[-]student.uni-hall= e.de]=0AHello Debasish Mandal,=0A=0Acheck the example section on=0Ahttp://w= ww.gaussian.com/g_tech/g_ur/k_scrf.htm=0Awith the title=0AFluoresence examp= le: Emission (Fluorescence) from First Excited State (n*) of =0AAcetaldehyd= e.=0AFor a wider range of the spectra, you should try to use not only the f= irst =0Aexcited state but also some strong (high oscillator strenth) transi= tions with =0Ahigher energy. You maybe need to investigate in more then jus= t the first 6 =0Astates in STEP 2 to get a good spectra.=0A=0ABest regards,= =0AMarcel Brautzsch=0A=0A> "Debasish Mandal spdm]*[iacs.res.in" wrote:=0A>= =0A> Sent to CCL by: "Debasish Mandal" [spdm() iacs.res.in]=0A> Actually = I have an experimental fluorescence spectra for a organic =0A>pi-conjugated= molecule (plotted as fluorescence intensity vs wavelength) in=0A> differen= t solvent e.g. in water,methanol etc. Is it possible to reproduce the =0A>a= bove type of spectra theoretically using g09 and gaussview 5.0.9? Please an= yone =0A>give me an idea about this.any help is greately appreaciated.=0A> = =0A> Thanks & Regards=0A> Debasish=0A> =0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-=3D This is automat= ically added to each message by the mailing script =3D-=0ATo recover the em= ail address of the author of the message, please change=0Athe strange chara= cters on the top line to the === sign. 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Dear Marcel Brautzsch & other CCLrs,


            =                      = ;                    I wo= uld like to extend the question along with the previous question asked by&n= bsp;Deba= sish Manda, actually thanks to marcel for his answer, and i tried to work o= ut this example, and now i have doubt, in this step, in what basis we have to= change the coordinates in order to brake the symmetry. in this case they h= ave changed the dihedral angle, but for my molecule which one will be corre= ct, whether change of dihedral angle or angle or any bond length, etc. or a= ny rule of thumb is there? your suggestions are welcome. 

  

thanking  you

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Step 4: Relaxation of= the excited state geometry. Next, we perform a TD-DFT geometry op= timization, with equilibrium, linear response solvation, in order to find t= he minimum energy point on the excited state potential energy surface. Sinc= e this is a TD-DFT optimization, the program defaults to equilibrium solvat= ion. As is typical of such cases, the molecule has a plane of symmetry in t= he ground state but the symmetry is broken in the excited state, so the gro= und state geometry is perturbed slightly to break symmetry at the start of = the optimization.

%chk=3D04-ac=0A# B3LYP/6-31+G(d,p) TD=3D(Read,NSt=
ates=3D6,Root=3D1) SCRF=3D(Solvent=3DEthanol) =0A  Geom=3DModify Guess=3DRe=
ad Opt=3DRCFC=0A=0AAcetaldehyde: excited state opt=0AModify geometry to bre=
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= From: Marcel Brautzsch mar= cel.brautzsch+/-student.uni-halle.de <owner-chemistry===ccl.net>
= To: "Solomon, Vijay "= <vijaysolomon_2005===yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 4:44:40 PM
Subject: CCL:G: Theoritical emision spectrosco= py using gaussian09


Sent to CCL by: "Marcel  Brautzs= ch" [marcel.brautzsch[-]student.uni-halle.de]
Hello Debasish Mandal,
=
check the example section on
http://www.gaussian.com/g_tech/g_ur/k_scrf.htm=
with the title
Fluoresence example: Emission (Fluorescence) from Fir= st Excited State (n*) of Acetaldehyde.
For a wider range of the spectra,= you should try to use not only the first excited state but also some stron= g (high oscillator strenth) transitions with higher energy. You maybe need = to investigate in more then just the first 6 states in STEP 2 to get a good= spectra.

Best regards,
Marcel Brautzsch

> "Debasish Ma= ndal spdm]*[iacs.res.in"  wrote:
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Deb= asish  Mandal" [spdm() iacs.res.in]
> Actually I have an experim= ental fluorescence spectra for a organic pi-conjugated molecule (plotted as= fluorescence intensity vs wavelength) in
> different solvent e.g. in= water,methanol etc. Is it possible to reproduce the above type of spectra theoretically using g09 and gaussview 5.0.9? Please anyone give me= an idea about this.any help is greately appreaciated.
>
> Tha= nks & Regards
> Debasish
>
>



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--0-613083621-1309369704=:77587-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 29 15:05:00 2011 From: "Olasunkanmi Lukman Olawale walecomuk|*|yahoo.co.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: ions and sparkles in MOPAC Message-Id: <-45004-110629142831-3887-4FHG/9XGMlaK78hTzvnunw/a\server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Olasunkanmi Lukman Olawale Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1646936836-1309372103=:23556" Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:28:23 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Olasunkanmi Lukman Olawale [walecomuk%yahoo.co.uk] --0-1646936836-1309372103=:23556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=0AI have read the MOPAC 2009 manual but=A0certain concepts or terms are = not so clear =0Ato me.=0A1. to get the free=A0energy of formation for=A0org= anometallic complexes, I =0Adesigned=A0a reaction scheme like:=0AM(n+) + Lm= =A0 =3D=A0=A0=A0 [M(L)m]n+=0AI therefore need the heats of formation, entro= py and free energies for all the =0Aspecies. I have tried this=A0in MOPAC= =A0with Ni2+ but I could not=A0get the results =0Afor=A0entropy (force=A0ca= lculation=A0could not be=A0carried out).=A0Entropy values in =0AMOPAC2009 m= anual (extrated from CRC handbook) are for neutral atoms. Please I =0Aneed = your contribution on this.=0A2.=A0I do not really understand the term "SPAR= KLE" as it was explained in the =0AMANUAL. Is it only necessary to use SPAR= KLE=A0keyword=A0for calculation =0Ainvolving=A0Lanthanides=A0complexes or= =A0also with transition metal complexes. =0ASometimes, they use SPARKLE whi= le considering solvent effect. Why?=0AThank you in anticipation of you resp= onse.=0A=0A=A0Olasunkanmi Lukman Olawale=0A________________________________= =0ACurrent Address:=0ADepartment of Chemistry,=0AObafemi Awolowo University= ,=0AIle-Ife, Osun State.=0ANigeria.=0A=0A+234-0-80-52401564 Or +234-0-80-67= 161091=0A________________________________=0A --0-1646936836-1309372103=:23556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi
=0A
I have read the = MOPAC 2009 manual but certain concepts or terms are not so clear to me= .
=0A
1. to get the free energy of formation for organom= etallic complexes, I designed a reaction scheme like:
=0A
M(n= +) + Lm  =3D    [M(L)m]n+
=0A
I therefore need= the heats of formation, entropy and free energies for all the species. I h= ave tried this in MOPAC with Ni2+ but I could not get the re= sults for entropy (force calculation could not be carri= ed out). Entropy values in MOPAC2009 manual (extrated from CRC handboo= k) are for neutral atoms. Please I need your contribution on this.
=0A=
2. I do not really understand the term "SPARKLE" as it was explai= ned in the MANUAL. Is it only necessary to use SPARKLE keyword fo= r calculation involving Lanthanides complexes or also with t= ransition metal complexes. Sometimes, they use SPARKLE while considering so= lvent effect. Why?
=0A
Thank you in anticipation of you response.<= BR>
 
Olasunkanmi Lukman Olawale
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=0ACurrent Address:
Department of Chemistr= y,
Obafemi Awolowo University,
Ile-Ife, Osun State.
Nigeria.
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