From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 00:16:01 2011 From: "ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi.abhishek1984|*|gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: how to calculate distortion constants Message-Id: <-44859-110608001124-7664-38Pe7fmOgiRS0g/8Q3xFcw(a)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: ABHISHEK SHAHI Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302ad6a437250804a52b87a5 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:41:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: ABHISHEK SHAHI [shahi.abhishek1984%gmail.com] --20cf302ad6a437250804a52b87a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, I am looking for a program which can calculate the distortion constants (Dj, Djk etc...).Thanks in advance. With regards; *ABHISHEK SHAHI* *Research Scholar Inorganic and Physical Chemistry Indian Institute Of Science Bangalore-12* INDIA --20cf302ad6a437250804a52b87a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All,


=A0=A0 I am looking for a program which can calculate= the distortion constants (Dj, Djk etc...).Thanks in advance.

=A0
With regards;
=A0ABHISHEK SHAHI
Research Scholar
Inorganic and= Physical Chemistry
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Bangalore-12

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--20cf302ad6a437250804a52b87a5-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 01:26:00 2011 From: "Farhan Pasha pashafa * yahoo.co.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44860-110608012435-6074-4b0GUEBGGFzCXxjrSJN4hQ]|[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Farhan Pasha Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1119614427-1307510665=:99094" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:54:25 +0530 (IST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Farhan Pasha [pashafa!^!yahoo.co.in] --0-1119614427-1307510665=:99094 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Abhishek The barrier depends on the reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to = say without knowing the reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown barr= ier beyond 30 Kcal/M if u elaborate your question one can respond. best Pasha Correspondence Address =0ADr. Syed Farhan Ahmad Pasha --- On Wed, 8/6/11, Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in wrote: > From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in Subject: CCL: activation barrier To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 AM Sent to CCL by: "Abhishek=A0 Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in] Hi ALL: =A0 What is the maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic= reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol= ?? Many thanks in advance. best wishes, Abhishek -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script =3D-=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 =A0 =A0Subscribe/Unsubscribe:=20 =A0 =A0 =A0Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs=20=A0 =A0 =A0--0-1119614427-1307510665=:99094 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Abhishek

The barrier depends on t= he reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to say without knowing the = reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown barrier beyond 30 Kcal/M
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--0-1119614427-1307510665=:99094-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 02:21:00 2011 From: "Sebastian Kozuch kozuchs\a/yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44861-110608021812-11405-uWlhDK/N7XS3Dj6BU+iKgQ~!~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Sebastian Kozuch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-477340988-1307513858=:7065" Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 23:17:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Sebastian Kozuch [kozuchs~~yahoo.com] --0-477340988-1307513858=:7065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No. 30 Kcal/mol is a barrier that can only be surmounted at high temperatur= e. Check it looking at Eyring's transition state theory.=0ABy the way, two = important points to take into account. First, you must use Gibbs energies, = and not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic reaction the global = rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the energetic span. Take = a look atAcc. Chem. Res. 2011 , 44 ,=09=09=09=09=0A101-110=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09 . It may be useful for you to check our AUTOF program, J. Comput. Ch= em. 2011 , 32 ,=09=09=09=09=0A978-985=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 (sorry for the = self-publicity).=0A=0ABest,=0A=0A=A0=0Axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= x=0A..........Sebastian Kozuch...........=0Axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxx=0A....Weizmann Institute of Science....=0A...........Rehovot, Israel= ...........=0A.. sebastian.kozuch|a|weizmann.ac.il ..=0Ahttp://yfaat.ch.huji.= ac.il/kozuch.htm=0Axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=0A=0A=0A__________= ______________________=0AFrom: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac= .in =0ATo: "Kozuch, Sebastian " =0ASent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 5:56 AM=0ASubject: CCL: activatio= n barrier=0A=0A=0ASent to CCL by: "Abhishek=A0 Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc= (0)iitb.ac.in]=0AHi ALL:=0A=A0 What is the maximum energy limit of activati= on barrier in any catalytic reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is i= t can go beyond 30 KCal/mol??=0A=0AMany thanks in advance.=0A=0Abest wishes= ,=0AAbhishek=0A=0A=0A=0A-=3D This is automatically added to each message by= the mailing script =3D-=0ATo recover the email address of the author of th= e message, please change=0Athe strange characters on the top line to the |a| = sign. You can also=0A= =0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http:/= /www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message=0A=0AE-mail to administrators: CH= EMISTRY-REQUEST|a|ccl.net or use=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl= /send_ccl_message=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.ccl= .net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml=0A=0ABefore posting, check wait time at: htt= p://www.ccl.net=0A=0A=0AConferences: http://se= rver.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/=0A=0ASearch Messages: htt= p://www.ccl.net/chemistry/searchccl/index.shtml=0A=0AIf your mail bounces f= rom CCL with 5.7.1 error, check:=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.ccl.net/spammers.= txt=0A=0A--0-477340988-1307513858=:7065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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By the way, two = important points to take into account. First, you must use Gibbs energies, = and not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic reaction the global = rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the energetic span. Take = a look at Acc. Chem. Re= s.=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=0A2011=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09,=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=0A44=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09,=09=09=09=09=0A101-1= 10=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09. It may be useful for you to check our = AUTOF program, =09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0AJ. Comput. Chem.=09=09=09=09=09= =09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A2011=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09,=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A32= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=0A=09=09=09,=09=09=09=09=0A978-985=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=0A=09=09=09(sorry for the self-publicity).

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--0-477340988-1307513858=:7065-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 05:29:00 2011 From: "abhishekdc .. iitb.ac.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44862-110608052705-18212-7D14hD3z1TQAu+/jwig91g ~~ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: abhishekdc=iitb.ac.in Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:56:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: abhishekdc ~ iitb.ac.in Dear Dr. Pasha: Many thnaks. Sorry for inadequate information initially. Actually I want to know the (acceptable) energy barrier for catalytic water spiliting reaction (water to dioxygen) by transition metal catalyst. The actual experiment has done at pH=1 at RT. I have noticed that in some literature the said barrier exceeds 120 KCal/mol. In my case it was 118 KCal/mol. But I am still not convinced. Is it fine in present case?? Looking forward to hear from you and Many thanks in advance. Best Wishes, Abhishek To Prof. Sebastian Kozuch: Many thanks for those references. Will surely look into this. Best Wishes, Abhishek > Dear Abhishek > > The barrier depends on the reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to > say without knowing the reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown > barrier beyond 30 Kcal/M > if u elaborate your question one can respond. > > best > Pasha > > > Correspondence Address > > Dr. Syed Farhan Ahmad Pasha > > --- On Wed, 8/6/11, Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in > wrote: > >> From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in >> > Subject: CCL: activation barrier > To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " > Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 AM > > > Sent to CCL by: "Abhishek  Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in] > Hi ALL: >   What is the maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic > reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 > KCal/mol?? > > Many thanks in advance. > > best wishes, > Abhishek    >       >           --0-1119614427-1307510665=:99094 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >
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The barrier depends on the > reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to say without knowing the > reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown barrier beyond 30 > Kcal/M
if u elaborate your question one can > respond.

best
Pasha


Correspondence Address
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--- On Wed, 8/6/11, Abhishek Dutta > Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in > wrote:

From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury > abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in
Subject: CCL: > activation barrier
To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " >
Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 > AM


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  What is the > maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic reaction at RT > (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol??

Many > thanks in advance.

best wishes,
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From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 06:34:00 2011 From: "JL jeffrey.lebowski:+:gmx.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: AW: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44863-110608062330-31138-yFD6jXmKhfYJKgSZJN2kHg[-]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "JL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:23:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "JL" [jeffrey.lebowski++gmx.de] Dear Mr. Kozuch I read your paper (Acc. Chem. Res. 2011 , 44 , 101-110) and I just don't get how to determine the TDI and TDTS. Obviously they are not just the highest and lowest point in the mechanism energy scheme. How have they been determined for the first example (figure 1, PhCl to PhSH via Pd catalyst)? Can you say anything about that? Many thanks in advance! Cheers! -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Betreff: CCL: activation barrier No. 30 Kcal/mol is a barrier that can only be surmounted at high temperature. Check it looking at Eyring's transition state theory. By the way, two important points to take into account. First, you must use Gibbs energies, and not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic reaction the global rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the energetic span. Take a look atAcc. Chem. Res. 2011 , 44 , 101-110 . It may be useful for you to check our AUTOF program, J. Comput. Chem. 2011 , 32 , 978-985 (sorry for the self-publicity). Best,   xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ..........Sebastian Kozuch........... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ....Weizmann Institute of Science.... ...........Rehovot, Israel........... .. sebastian.kozuch[A]weizmann.ac.il .. http://yfaat.ch.huji.ac.il/kozuch.htm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ > From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in To: "Kozuch, Sebastian " Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: CCL: activation barrier Sent to CCL by: "Abhishek  Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in] Hi ALL:   What is the maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol?? Many thanks in advance. best wishes, Abhishekthe strange characters on the top line to the [A] sign. You can also      E-mail to administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST[A]ccl.net or use                --0-477340988-1307513858=065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=o-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No. 30 Kcal/mol is a barrier that can only be surmounted at high temperature. Check it looking at Eyring's transition state theory.
By the way, two important points to take into account. First, you must use Gibbs energies, and not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic reaction the global rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the energetic span. Take a look at Acc. Chem. Res. 2011 , 44 , 101-110 . It may be useful for you to check our AUTOF program, J. Comput. Chem. 2011 , 32 , 978-985 (sorry for the self-publicity).

Best,
 
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Many thanks in advance.

best wishes,
Abhishek


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From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 07:33:01 2011 From: "Farhan Pasha pashafa^_^yahoo.co.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44864-110608073227-10745-swQmpcoCH44LJO6MEE4Amw---server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Farhan Pasha Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1873210966-1307532734=:70885" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:02:14 +0530 (IST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Farhan Pasha [pashafa##yahoo.co.in] --0-1873210966-1307532734=:70885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Abhishek The value 118 is much much high. Please check different multiplicity (1, 3,= 5) and play a little with different functional which is more suitable for y= our metal. I never seen such high barrier although your reaction is not a e= asy process.=A0 Try to look at forces in output to know from where the high= barrier is coming and also if you have any constraint that might make issu= e. Hope it will help you, Best Pasha Correspondence Address =0ADr. Syed Farhan Ahmad Pasha --- On Wed, 8/6/11, abhishekdc .. iitb.ac.in wrot= e: > From: abhishekdc .. iitb.ac.in Subject: CCL: activation barrier To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 2:56 PM Sent to CCL by: abhishekdc ~ iitb.ac.in Dear Dr. Pasha: Many thnaks. Sorry for inadequate information initially. Actually I want to know the (acceptable) energy barrier for catalytic water spiliting reaction (water to dioxygen) by transition metal catalyst. The actual experiment has done at pH=3D1 at RT. =A0 I have noticed that in some literature the said barrier exceeds 120 KCal/mol. In my case it was 118 KCal/mol. But I am still not convinced. Is it fine in present case?? Looking forward to hear from you and Many thanks in advance. Best Wishes, Abhishek To Prof. Sebastian Kozuch: Many thanks for those references. Will surely look into this. Best Wishes, Abhishek > Dear Abhishek > > The barrier depends on the reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard t= o > say without knowing the reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown > barrier beyond 30 Kcal/M > if u elaborate your question one can respond. > > best > Pasha > > > Correspondence Address > > Dr. Syed Farhan Ahmad Pasha > > --- On Wed, 8/6/11, Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in > wrote: > >> From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in >> > Subject: CCL: activation barrier > To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " > Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 AM > > > Sent to CCL by: "Abhishek=A0 Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in] > Hi ALL: > =A0 What is the maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalyt= ic > reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 > KCal/mol?? > > Many thanks in advance. > > best wishes, > Abhishek=A0 =A0 > =A0=A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 =A0 =A0--0-1119614427-1307510665=3D:99094 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >
style=3D"font: inherit;">Dear Abhishek

The barrier depends on the > reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to say without knowing the > reaction. But for sure some reaction has shown barrier beyond 30 > Kcal/M
if u elaborate your question one can > respond.

best
Pasha


Correspondence Address
> Dr. Syed Farhan Ahmad Pasha

--- On Wed, 8/6/11, Abhishek Dutta > Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in > wrote:
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From: Abhishek Dutta Chowdhury > abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in
Subject: CCL: > activation barrier
To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " >
Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 > AM


Sent to CCL by: "Abhishek  Du= tta > Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in]
Hi ALL:
  What is the > maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic reaction at R= T > (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol??

Many > thanks in advance.

best wishes,
Abhishek



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Dear Abhishek

The value 118 is much mu= ch high. Please check different multiplicity (1, 3,5) and play a little wit= h different functional which is more suitable for your metal. I never seen = such high barrier although your reaction is not a easy process.  Try t= o look at forces in output to know from where the high barrier is coming an= d also if you have any constraint that might make issue.

Hope it wil= l help you,
Best
Pasha

Correspondence Address
=0ADr. Syed F= arhan Ahmad Pasha

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From: abhishekdc .. iitb.ac.in <owner-chemistry~~ccl.net>
Subj= ect: CCL: activation barrier
To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " <pash= afa~~yahoo.co.in>
Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 2:56 PM


Sent to CCL by: abhishekdc ~ iitb.ac.in
Dear Dr. = Pasha:

Many thnaks. Sorry for inadequate information initially. Actu= ally I want
to know the (acceptable) energy barrier for catalytic water = spiliting
reaction (water to dioxygen) by transition metal catalyst. The= actual
experiment has done at pH=3D1 at RT.

  I have notice= d that in some literature the said barrier exceeds 120
KCal/mol. In my c= ase it was 118 KCal/mol. But I am still not convinced.
Is it fine in present case??

Looking forward to hear from you and Many th= anks in advance.

Best Wishes,
Abhishek


To Prof. Sebast= ian Kozuch:

Many thanks for those references. Will surely look into = this.

Best Wishes,
Abhishek



> Dear Abhishek
= >
> The barrier depends on the reaction and reaction conditions. I= t is hard to
> say without knowing the reaction. But for sure some re= action has shown
> barrier beyond 30 Kcal/M
> if u elaborate yo= ur question one can respond.
>
> best
> Pasha
>
= >
> Correspondence Address
>
> Dr. Syed Farhan Ahmad P= asha
>
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> To: "Pasha, Frahan Ahmad " <pashafa#%#yahoo.co.in>> Date: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011, 8:26 AM
>
>
> Sent = to CCL by: "Abhishek  Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in]
&g= t; Hi ALL:
>   What is the maximum energy limit of activation ba= rrier in any catalytic
> reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? I= s it can go beyond 30
> KCal/mol??
>
> Many thanks in adv= ance.
>
> best wishes,
> Abhishek   
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> reaction and reaction conditions. It is hard to say without knowing the
> reaction. But fo= r sure some reaction has shown barrier beyond 30
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=
--0-1873210966-1307532734=:70885-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 08:28:00 2011 From: "Sebastian Kozuch kozuchs{:}yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: AW: activation barrier Message-Id: <-44865-110608082135-23485-YCwBaDNTD828zT9H2EJ4Kw ~ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Sebastian Kozuch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1786450487-1307535684=:75948" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:21:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Sebastian Kozuch [kozuchs(0)yahoo.com] --0-1786450487-1307535684=:75948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, for a catalytic cycle, to find the TOF determining intermediate and t= ransition state (TDI and TDTS) you have a couple of ways:=0A=0AI) The most = "analytical" and less intuitive is to calculate them with the degree of TOF= control (eqs. 11 and 12 in the paper). The states with higher degree are d= etermining.=0A=0AII) Look for all the combinations of energies of the trans= ition states and intermediates according to eq 9:=0A=0AdE =3D E(TS) - E(I)= =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 if the intermediate com= es before the TS=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D E(TS) - E(I)+ DGr=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 if the intermediate comes after the TS (DGr is the reaction energy o= f the whole cycle)=0A=0Athe combination that maximizes dE (the energetic sp= an) are the TDI and TDTS.=0A=0AIII) The visual way is to draw the cycles tw= o consecutive times and for each intermediate look for the highest TS in th= e forward direction. The biggest difference will give you the energetic spa= n and the determining states. It is a bit hard to draw it here, but you'll = find the schematics in figure 11 of the account, or in ChemPhysChem, 2011, = 12, 1413 and in J Phys Chem A 2008, 112, 6032.=0A=0AIV) Put all the energie= s data in the AUTOF program and let it calculate the determining states for= you (it uses the degree of TOF control for that).=0A=0A=0AApplying any of = the methods you will receive that in the first example (figure 1), for the = 6 links catalyst the TDTS is the oxidative addition, which is indeed the hi= ghest point in the graph (the reductive elimination is almost as important = as the ox. add. though). For the 3 links catalyst the reductive elimination= is more important. For both reactions the TDI is the lowest point in the c= ycle. I can say that the determining states are not necessarily the highest= and lowest states, but depending on the system they can certainly be.=0A= =0ABest,=0A=0ASebastian Kozuch=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: JL jeffrey.lebowski:+:gmx.de =0ATo: "Kozu= ch, Sebastian " =0ASent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011= 1:23 PM=0ASubject: CCL: AW: activation barrier=0A=0A=0ASent to CCL by: "JL= " [jeffrey.lebowski++gmx.de]=0ADear Mr. Kozuch=0A=0AI read your paper (Acc.= Chem. Res.=A0 2011 , 44 , 101-110) and I just don't=0Aget how to determine= the TDI and TDTS. Obviously they are not just the=0Ahighest and lowest poi= nt in the mechanism energy scheme. How have they been=0Adetermined for the = first example (figure 1, PhCl to PhSH via Pd catalyst)?=0A=0ACan you say an= ything about that?=0A=0AMany thanks in advance!=0A=0ACheers!=0A=0A=0A=0A---= --Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----=0A=0ABetreff: CCL: activation barrier=0A= =0ANo. 30 Kcal/mol is a barrier that can only be surmounted at high=0Atempe= rature. Check it looking at Eyring's transition state theory.=0ABy the way,= two important points to take into account. First, you must use=0AGibbs ene= rgies, and not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic=0Areaction th= e global rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the=0Aenergetic = span. Take a look atAcc. Chem. Res.=A0 2011 , 44 ,=0A=0A101-110=A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 . It may be us= eful=0Afor you to check our AUTOF program, J. Comput. Chem.=A0 2011 , 32 ,= =0A=0A978-985=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 (sorry for the=0Aself-publicity).=0A=0ABest,=0A=0A=A0=0Axxxxxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=0A..........Sebastian Kozuch...........=0Axxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=0A....Weizmann Institute of Science....= =0A...........Rehovot, Israel...........=0A.. sebastian.kozuch[A]weizmann.a= c.il ..=0Ahttp://yfaat.ch.huji.ac.il/kozuch.htm=0Axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxx=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A> From: Abhishek Du= tta Chowdhury abhishekdc[]iitb.ac.in=0A=0ATo: "K= ozuch, Sebastian " =0ASent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 5:= 56 AM=0ASubject: CCL: activation barrier=0A=0A=0ASent to CCL by: "Abhishek= =A0 Dutta Chowdhury" [abhishekdc(0)iitb.ac.in]=0AHi ALL:=0A=A0 What is the = maximum energy limit of activation barrier in any catalytic=0Areaction at R= T (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol??=0A=0AMany t= hanks in advance.=0A=0Abest wishes,=0AAbhishekthe strange characters on the= top line to the [A] sign. You can also=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0E-mail to adm= inistrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST[A]ccl.net or use=0A=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 =A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0--0-477340988-1307513858=3D065=0AContent-Type: text/html; charset= =3Do-8859-1=0AContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable=0A=0A=
No. 30=0AKcal/mol is a barrier = that can only be surmounted at high temperature. Check=0Ait looking at Eyri= ng's transition state theory.
By=0Athe way, two impo= rtant points to take into account. First, you must use=0AGibbs energies, an= d not only internal energies. Second, in a catalytic=0Areaction the global = rate is not dependent on only one barrier, but on the=0Aenergetic span. Tak= e a look at Acc. Chem= . Res.=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A2011=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0= =A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 ,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A44=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 ,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A101-110=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 . It may be = useful for you to check our AUTOF=0Aprogram, =0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0AJ. Comput. Chem.=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0= =A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A2011=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 ,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A32=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 ,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A978-985=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 (sorry for the=0Aself-publicity).

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  What is the maximum energy limit of activation barrier in= any=0Acatalytic reaction at RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go be= yond 30=0AKCal/mol??

Many thanks in advance.

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Well, for a catalytic cycle, to = find the TOF determining intermediate and transition state (TDI and TDTS) y= ou have a couple of ways:

I) The most "analytical" and less intuitiv= e is to calculate them with the degree of TOF control (eqs. 11 and 12 in th= e paper). The states with higher degree are determining.

II) Look fo= r all the combinations of energies of the transition states and intermediat= es according to eq 9:

dE =3D E(TS) - E(I)   &nb= sp;         &n= bsp;      if the intermediate= comes before the TS
     =3D
E(TS) - E(I) + DGr      &nbs= p;   if the intermediate comes after the TS (DGr is the reaction energy of the = whole cycle)

the combination that maximizes dE (the energetic span) = are the TDI and TDTS.

III) The visual way is to draw the cycles two = consecutive times and for each intermediate look for the highest TS in the = forward direction. The biggest difference will give you the energetic span = and the determining states. It is a bit hard to draw it here, but you'll fi= nd the schematics in figure 11 of the account, or in ChemPhysChem, 2011, 12= , 1413 and in J Phys Chem A 2008, 112, 6032.

IV) Put all the energie= s data in the AUTOF program and let it calculate the determining states for= you (it uses the degree of TOF control for that).


Applying any = of the methods you will receive that in the first example (figure 1), for t= he 6 links catalyst the TDTS is the oxidative addition, which is indeed the= highest point in the graph (the reductive elimination is almost as important as the ox. add. though). For the 3 links catalyst the reductive = elimination is more important. For both reactions the TDI is the lowest poi= nt in the cycle. I can say that the determining states are not necessarily the highest and lowest st= ates, but depending on the system they can certainly be.

Best= ,

Sebastian Kozuch


From: JL je= ffrey.lebowski:+:gmx.de <owner-chemistry|*|ccl.net>
To: "Kozuch, Sebastian " <koz= uchs|*|yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: CCL: AW: activation barrier

=0ASent to CCL by: "JL" [jeffrey.lebowski++gmx.de]
Dear Mr. Kozuch
I read your paper (Acc. Chem. Res.  2011 , 44 , 101-110) and I just d= on't
get how to determine the TDI and TDTS. Obviously they are not just = the
highest and lowest point in the mechanism energy scheme. How have th= ey been
determined for the first example (figure 1, PhCl to PhSH via Pd = catalyst)?

Can you say anything about that?

Many thanks in ad= vance!

Cheers!



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Betreff: CCL: activation barrier

No. 30 Kcal/mol is a barrier t= hat can only be surmounted at high
temperature. Check it looking at Eyri= ng's transition state theory.
By the way, two important points to take i= nto account. First, you must use
Gibbs energies, and not only internal e= nergies. Second, in a catalytic
reaction the global rate is not dependen= t on only one barrier, but on the
energetic span. Take a look atAcc. Chem. Res.  2011 , 44 ,

101-110     = ;               &nbs= p;       . It may be useful
for you to check o= ur AUTOF program, J. Comput. Chem.  2011 , 32 ,

978-985 &n= bsp;               &= nbsp;          (sorry for the
self-p= ublicity).

Best,

 
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reaction at = RT (at B3LYP level of theory)? Is it can go beyond 30 KCal/mol??

Man= y thanks in advance.

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--0-1786450487-1307535684=:75948-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 12:40:01 2011 From: "Sumit Mittal sumitmittal15(!)gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Problem in Cfour calculation.. Message-Id: <-44866-110608113434-25806-6kkO5tr7c9LWavQ8vBjMgA,+,server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Sumit Mittal" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:34:33 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Sumit Mittal" [sumitmittal15|a|gmail.com] Hi All, I was trying to characterise a molecule using Gaussian09. First I optimise it using UB3LYP/aug-cc-pvtz. I used the optimised parameters as input for optimising the same molecule but with UB3LYP/6-311+G(d,p). Then I carried out the frequency calculations and there was no imaginary frequency which verified that this molecule was not a transition state. Then I tried to optimise it in CCSD/aug-pvtz using CFOUR , but it gave the following error : *There are 1 negative eigen values.* which mean that it is a transition state. How is it possible because I am using the same parameters for both calculations? So tell me what should I do now to fix this problem. Thanks Sumit Mittal sumitmittal15]_[gmail.com IIT-Ropar, India From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 13:43:00 2011 From: "Arindam Ganguly arindamganguly,,gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Polymer FTIR/Raman spectral simulation using Gaussian 03W Message-Id: <-44867-110608134128-16692-+U5AKrJKf0UwziNjq9tGUA!=!server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Arindam Ganguly" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:41:26 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Arindam Ganguly" [arindamganguly++gmail.com] Dear CCL Users, Good afternoon and hope this message reaches you all well. I have question which is quite obvious from the subject of the message. Has anyone used Gaussian 03W for Polymer FTIR/Raman spectra simulation? Any guidance and references will be really helpful. I would also be grateful if anyone of you would be willing to share input files? Thank you all very much for your support. Sincerely, Arindam From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 14:18:00 2011 From: "Arindam Ganguly arindamganguly|-|gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Polymer FTIR/Raman spectral simulation using Gaussian 03W Message-Id: <-44868-110608134612-28232-tcVvgveEkyQWMrPBBYS+vQ|a|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Arindam Ganguly" Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:46:11 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Arindam Ganguly" [arindamganguly(0)gmail.com] Dear CCL Users, Good afternoon and hope this message reaches you all well. I have question which is quite obvious from the subject of the message. Has anyone used Gaussian 03W for Polymer FTIR/Raman spectra simulation? Any guidance and references will be really helpful. I would also be grateful if anyone of you would be willing to share input files? Thank you all very much for your support. Sincerely, Arindam From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Jun 8 20:40:01 2011 From: "Roy Green powergreen^gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: silicon slab coordinates Message-Id: <-44869-110608203756-29872-B/UIWzXOEFksnrWAQDCWgw^_^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Roy Green Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52c5c8d69c8a004a53ca958 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:37:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Roy Green [powergreen],[gmail.com] --bcaec52c5c8d69c8a004a53ca958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, Can you offer me a set of reconstructed silicon surface (7X7) coordinates with PBC conditions? Thank you. Roy --bcaec52c5c8d69c8a004a53ca958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All,

Can you offer me a set of reconstructed silicon surface (7X7) coordinates with PBC conditions? Thank you.

Roy
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