From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Fri Feb 19 06:18:01 2010 From: "Alex Naden anaden**fsmail.net" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Estimation of viscosity from molecular weight Message-Id: <-41285-100219061638-30575-DlsZACLiLa/KfYh7zA3rNw#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Alex Naden" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:16:34 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Alex Naden" [anaden|*|fsmail.net] Hi, I am trying to find a way of estimating viscosity from molecular weight. I have found some information on Joback/Reid method but I am not sure if there is a software implementing this method or any alternative way to estimate the viscosity? I would be grateful if someone could help with this. Thank you, Alex From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Fri Feb 19 11:28:01 2010 From: "Andreas Klamt klamt,cosmologic.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Estimation of viscosity from molecular weight Message-Id: <-41286-100219085627-9508-z+iFeiTVYejnAKsY47p+yA()server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Andreas Klamt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:56:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Andreas Klamt [klamt[#]cosmologic.de] Hi Alex, an estimation of viscosity just from molecular weight is obviously nonsense. No question, there is a considerable influence of the molecular size (for which the weight may be a descriptor, but probably volume or surface area are the better descriptors), but in addition viscosity has a lot to do with the interactions of the molecules. Our COSMOtherm software includes a model for viscosity, based on the molecular surface area and on the entropy of the liquid. The entropy is calculated by COSMO-RS, and it is a measure of the degree of partner changes. If each surface segment has a lot if different thermodynamically available choices for the interaction partner, then the entropy is high, and the liquid has a high viscosity, and vice versa. Obviously this is not absolutely rigorous, but at least quite plausible and it works quite well. Best regards Andreas Alex Naden anaden**fsmail.net schrieb: > Sent to CCL by: "Alex Naden" [anaden|*|fsmail.net] > Hi, > > I am trying to find a way of estimating viscosity from molecular weight. I have found some information on Joback/Reid method but I am not sure if there is a software implementing this method or any alternative way to estimate the viscosity? I would be grateful if someone could help with this. > > Thank you, > > Alex> > > > -- PD. Dr. Andreas Klamt CEO / Geschäftsführer COSMOlogic GmbH & Co. KG Burscheider Strasse 515 D-51381 Leverkusen, Germany phone +49-2171-731681 fax +49-2171-731689 e-mail klamt-.-cosmologic.de web www.cosmologic.de HRA 20653 Landgericht Koeln, GF: Dr. Andreas Klamt Komplementaer: COSMOlogic Verwaltungs GmbH HRB 49501 Landgericht Koeln, GF: Dr. Andreas Klamt