From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 04:27:01 2009 From: "Adam Kubas adam.kubas]*[kit.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Which program to optimize the crystal structure of transition metal complex? Message-Id: <-40737-091121041925-22946-HVHmSqU/0XKcEjNkXQkdcw,+,server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Adam Kubas Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:27:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Adam Kubas [adam.kubas^kit.edu] Dear Mariusz, My propositions are Turbomole and Orca - first is the fastest DFT code I've ever seen with wide range of options to control spin state of optimized compound but you have to buy it (free demo is available). The second program is a free package and is easily to use. 2009/11/20 Mariusz Radon mariusz.radon(0)gmail.com : > > Sent to CCL by: Mariusz Radon [mariusz.radon]-[gmail.com] > Dear Colleagues, > > I am looking for a program being able to optimize the crystal > structure of transition metal complex (molecular structure and unit > cell parameters) at DFT level. An important point is that I must be > able to control the spin state of the complex, because I would like to > perform such optimizations for different spin states in order to > capture the influence of the spin state on the molecular structure and > packing in the crystal. > > Could you recommend me any program capable to achieve this goal > (preferably, but not necessarily free software)? Thank you in advance > very much. > > Best regards, > Mariusz Radon --=20 Adam Kubas Karlsruher Institut f=FCr Technologie (KIT) Institut f=FCr Physikalische Chemie Abteilung f=FCr Theoretische Chemie Geb. 30.45, Kaiserstra=DFe 12, D-76131 Karlsruhe http://www.ipc.uni-karlsruhe.de/theochem/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Office: Institut f=FCr Nanotechnologie Raum: 640/0-333 Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen Tel.: +49 7247 82-8834 http://www.int.kit.edu KIT - Universit=E4t des Landes Baden-W=FCrttemberg und nationales Gro=DFforschungszentrum in der Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 10:28:01 2009 From: "qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? Message-Id: <-40738-091121000011-28367-su1D+iQtcIDN32QDg+OSuQ[A]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: qiancheng shen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640d1f03eeb0f0478d98895 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:53:15 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: qiancheng shen [qianchengshen^gmail.com] --0016e640d1f03eeb0f0478d98895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear CCLers, I got a MOPAC output file will all EIGENVECTORS printed out. But, Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO? Could anyone help me? The output MO information looks like: Root No. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 A 2 A 3 A 4 A 5 A 6 A 7 A 8 A -37.523 -35.473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.108 -20.717 -19.976 S C 1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662 0.2965 -0.1799 -0.2729 0.1466 Px C 1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.1044 -0.0410 -0.0398 0.0921 0.2435 -0.1648 Py C 1 -0.0125 -0.0125 0.0008 0.0230 -0.0359 0.0378 -0.0719 0.0727 Pz C 1 -0.0016 -0.0004 0.0022 0.0022 0.0032 -0.0147 0.0045 -0.0002 S C 2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803 0.1349 0.3741 -0.2315 Px C 2 -0.0130 0.0324 0.1300 0.2048 -0.1953 0.0878 0.1430 -0.0600 Py C 2 -0.0619 -0.0591 0.0039 0.0897 -0.1163 0.0882 -0.1543 0.1498 ......... and Root No. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 9 A 10 A 11 A 12 A 13 A 14 A 15 A 16 A -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.911 -14.409 -13.993 -13.166 -12.837 S C 1 0.0584 0.0193 -0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0170 0.0373 Px C 1 -0.1888 -0.0755 0.3150 0.1065 0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1153 0.2238 Py C 1 -0.2164 0.2561 0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704 0.0105 -0.0940 0.0989 Pz C 1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804 0.0208 0.0267 -0.1218 -0.0939 --0016e640d1f03eeb0f0478d98895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear CCLers,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I got a MOPAC output file will all EI= GENVECTORS printed out. But, Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO?
=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Could anyone help me?

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The out= put MO information looks like:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 5=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 6=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 8

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 1 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 3 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 4 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 5 A= =A0=A0=A0=A0 6 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 7 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 8 A=A0=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -37.523 -35.473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.108 -20.717 = -19.976
=A0
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662=A0 0.2965 -0.179= 9 -0.2729=A0 0.1466
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.1044 -0.0410 -0.= 0398=A0 0.0921=A0 0.2435 -0.1648
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0125 -0.0125=A0 0.0= 008=A0 0.0230 -0.0359=A0 0.0378 -0.0719=A0 0.0727
=A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0016 -0.0004=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0032 -0.0147=A0 0= .0045 -0.0002
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803= =A0 0.1349=A0 0.3741 -0.2315
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0130=A0 0.0324=A0 0.130= 0=A0 0.2048 -0.1953=A0 0.0878=A0 0.1430 -0.0600
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0619 -0.0591=A0 0.0039=A0 0.0897 -0.1163=A0 0.0882 -0.1= 543=A0 0.1498
.........
and=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 9=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 10= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 11=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 12=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 13=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 14=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 15=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 16

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 9 A=A0=A0=A0 10 A=A0=A0=A0 11 A=A0=A0=A0 12 A=A0=A0=A0 13 A=A0=A0=A0= 14 A=A0=A0=A0 15 A=A0=A0=A0 16 A=A0=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.911 -14.409 = -13.993 -13.166 -12.837
=A0
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1=A0 0.0584=A0 0.0193 -= 0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0170=A0 0.0373
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.188= 8 -0.0755=A0 0.3150=A0 0.1065=A0 0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1153=A0 0.2238
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.2164=A0 0.2561=A0 0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704=A0 0.0105 -0.0= 940=A0 0.0989
=A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804=A0 0.0208= =A0 0.0267 -0.1218 -0.0939


--0016e640d1f03eeb0f0478d98895-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 11:19:00 2009 From: "Morad El-Hendawy m80elhendawy*|*yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? Message-Id: <-40739-091121111808-31321-Pz8wOHYgfJQn7t7vbQMueA() server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Morad El-Hendawy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2092961422-1258820274=:21464" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Morad El-Hendawy [m80elhendawy*_*yahoo.com] --0-2092961422-1258820274=:21464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Qiancheng, Go to Berif outpout, you will foind a summary like below:=20 FINAL HEAT OF FORMATION =3D 26.97779 KCAL TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19.78933 EV ELECTRONIC ENERGY =3D -27.20810 EV CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D 7.41878 EV IONIZATION POTENTIAL =3D 8.38124 NO. OF FILLED LEVELS =3D 1 MOLECULAR WEIGHT =3D 7.948 > From the value of ionization potential you can specify the HOMO level; beca= use the former is negative value of the later. See this representative exam= ple for LiH molecule: TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19.78933 EV ELECTRONIC ENERGY =3D -27.20810 EV CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D 7.41878 EV IONIZATION POTENTIAL =3D 8.38124 NO. OF FILLED LEVELS =3D 1 MOLECULAR WEIGHT =3D 7.948 EIGENVECTORS ROOT NO. 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 5 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -8.38124=A0 0.63258=A0=A0 2.4= 5221=A0=A0 2.45221 =A0=A0 5.60161 S Li=A0=A0=A0=A0 1=A0=A0=A0 0.41230=A0=A0 0.80110=A0=A0 0.00000=A0 0.00000= =A0 -0.43387 PX Li=A0=A0 1 =A0=A0 0.34007 =A0 -0.57714=A0 0.00000=A0 0.00000=A0 -0.74247 PY Li =A0 1 =A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.00000=A0 -0.92376=A0 0.38298=A0 0.00000 PZ Li=A0=A0 1 =A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.38298=A0 0.92376=A0=A0 0= .00000 Best regards ***************************************************************************= ***********************Morad M. El-HendawyIreland ***************************************************************************= ***********************=A0If you want a happy life, do four things:=A01- Co= ntemplate and be thankful, 2- The past is gone forever, 3- Today all that you have, 4- Leave the future alone until it come.=A0********************************= ***************************************************************************= ******** --- On Sat, 11/21/09, qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com wrote: > From: qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? To: "El-Hendawy, Morad Metwally " Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 5:53 AM Dear CCLers, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I got a MOPAC output file will all EIGENVECTORS print= ed out. But, Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO? =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Could anyone help me?=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The output MO information looks like: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 5=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 6=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 8 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 3 A= =A0=A0=A0=A0 4 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 5 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 6 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 7 A=A0=A0=A0= =A0 8 A=A0=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -37.523 -35.473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.= 108 -20.717 -19.976 =0A=A0=20 =A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662=A0 0.2965 -0.1799 -0.272= 9=A0 0.1466 =A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.1044 -0.0410 -0.0398=A0 0.0921=A0 0.243= 5 -0.1648 =A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0125 -0.0125=A0 0.0008=A0 0.0230 -0.0359=A0 0.0378 -0.0= 719=A0 0.0727 =0A=A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0016 -0.0004=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0032 -0.0147= =A0 0.0045 -0.0002 =A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803=A0 0.1349=A0 0.3= 741 -0.2315 =A0 Px=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0130=A0 0.0324=A0 0.1300=A0 0.2048 -0.1953=A0 0.0878=A0= 0.1430 -0.0600 =0A=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0619 -0.0591=A0 0.0039=A0 0.0897 -0.1163=A0 0.0882 -= 0.1543=A0 0.1498 ......... and=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 9=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 10=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 11=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 12=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 13=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 14=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 15=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= 16 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 9 A=A0=A0=A0 10 A=A0=A0=A0 11 A=A0= =A0=A0 12 A=A0=A0=A0 13 A=A0=A0=A0 14 A=A0=A0=A0 15 A=A0=A0=A0 16 A=A0=A0= =20 =0A =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.911 -14.409 -13.= 993 -13.166 -12.837 =A0=20 =A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1=A0 0.0584=A0 0.0193 -0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0= 170=A0 0.0373 =A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.1888 -0.0755=A0 0.3150=A0 0.1065=A0 0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1= 153=A0 0.2238 =0A=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.2164=A0 0.2561=A0 0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704=A0 0.0105 -= 0.0940=A0 0.0989 =A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804=A0 0.0208=A0 0.0267 -0.121= 8 -0.0939 =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2092961422-1258820274=:21464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Qiancheng,
Go to Berif outpout, you w= ill foind a summary like below:

FINAL HEAT OF FORMATION =3D 26.9777= 9 KCAL
TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19.78933 EV
ELECTRONIC ENERGY =3D -27.20810 = EV
CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D 7.41878 EV
IONIZATION POTENTIAL =3D 8.3812= 4
NO. OF FILLED LEVELS =3D 1
MOLECULAR WEIGHT =3D 7.948

From t= he value of ionization potential you can specify the HOMO level; because th= e former is negative value of the later. See this representative example fo= r LiH molecule:

TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19.78933 EV
ELECTRONIC ENERGY = =3D -27.20810 EV
CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D 7.41878 EV
IONIZATION POTENT= IAL =3D 8.38124<= br>NO. OF FILLED LEVELS =3D 1
MOLECULAR WEIGHT =3D 7.948
EIGENVECTORS=
ROOT NO. 1          &= nbsp;  2            3 = ;           4  =             5
&nb= sp;            =    -8.38124  0.63258   2.45221   2.45221    5.= 60161

S Li     1    0.41230 =   0.80110   0.00000  0.00000  -0.43387
PX Li&nb= sp;  1    0.34007   -0.57714  0.00000  0.0000= 0  -0.74247
PY Li   1    0.00000   0.00000=   -0.92376  0.38298  0.00000
PZ Li   1  &n= bsp; 0.00000   0.00000   0.38298  0.92376 &nb= sp; 0.00000

Best regards
****************************= **********************************************************************
Morad M. El-Hendawy
Ireland
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 = If you want a happy life, do four things:
 
1- Contemplate and be thank= ful,
2- The past i= s gone forever,
3- Today all that you have,
4- Leave the future alone= until it come.
 
*************************************************************= ******************************************************3D""

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, qiancheng shen = qianchengshen{:}gmail.com <owner-chemistry]~[ccl.net> wrote:=

From: qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail= .com <owner-chemistry]~[ccl.net>
Subject: CCL: How can I find the HO= MO from the MOPAC output??
To: "El-Hendawy, Morad Metwally " <= ;m80elhendawy]~[yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 5:53 AM
Dear CCLers,
    &nbs= p;   I got a MOPAC output file will all EIGENVECTORS printed out.= But, Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO?
     = ;   Could anyone help me?

     &= nbsp;  The output MO information looks like:
   &nbs= p;    
=0A       = ; Root No.    1       2 &= nbsp;     3       4 =       5       6 = ;      7       8
=
            = ;  1 A     2 A     3 A &n= bsp;   4 A     5 A     6 = A     7 A     8 A  
<= br>           -37.523 -35= .473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.108 -20.717 -19.976
=0A 
 = ; S   C  1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662  0.2965 -0.1= 799 -0.2729  0.1466
  Px  C  1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.10= 44 -0.0410 -0.0398  0.0921  0.2435 -0.1648
  Py  C&n= bsp; 1 -0.0125 -0.0125  0.0008  0.0230 -0.0359  0.0378 -0.07= 19  0.0727
=0A  Pz  C  1 -0.0016 -0.0004  0.002= 2  0.0022  0.0032 -0.0147  0.0045 -0.0002
  S &= nbsp; C  2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803  0.1349  = 0.3741 -0.2315
  Px  C  2 -0.0130  0.0324  0.13= 00  0.2048 -0.1953  0.0878  0.1430 -0.0600
=0A  Py&n= bsp; C  2 -0.0619 -0.0591  0.0039  0.0897 -0.1163  0.08= 82 -0.1543  0.1498
.........
and  Root No.   = ; 9      10      11 =      12      13  &nb= sp;   14      15    =   16

         &nbs= p;    9 A    10 A    11 A = ;   12 A    13 A    14 A  = ;  15 A    16 A  
=0A
  &nbs= p;        -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.91= 1 -14.409 -13.993 -13.166 -12.837
 
  S   C = ; 1  0.0584  0.0193 -0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0170 = 0.0373
  Px  C  1 -0.1888 -0.0755  0.3150  0.1= 065  0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1153  0.2238
=0A  Py  C = 1 -0.2164  0.2561  0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704  0.0105 -0.0940&n= bsp; 0.0989
  Pz  C  1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804&nb= sp; 0.0208  0.0267 -0.1218 -0.0939


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=0A=0A --0-2092961422-1258820274=:21464-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 11:54:00 2009 From: "Mariusz Radon mariusz.radon[]gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Which program to optimize the crystal structure of transition metal complex? Message-Id: <-40740-091121101537-4299-ofpkhNDYzxiXdESuqv+NBA=server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Mariusz Radon Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:49:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Mariusz Radon [mariusz.radon^gmail.com] > My propositions are Turbomole and Orca (...) What I am looking for is a program being able to optimize the *crystal structure* (solid state), not only a single molecule in vacuo (I know that Turbomole and Orca master in it...). In the other words: I would like to optimize the molecules in the crystal and the parameters of the unit cell, simultaneously. I don't think these features are really implemented in Turbomole or Orca (or maybe I am wrong?) My question is still open for your suggestions! Best regards, Mariusz Radon On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Adam Kubas adam.kubas]*[kit.edu wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Adam Kubas [adam.kubas^kit.edu] > Dear Mariusz, > > My propositions are Turbomole and Orca - first is the fastest DFT code > I've ever seen with wide range of options to control spin state of > optimized compound but you have to buy it (free demo is available). > The second program is a free package and is easily to use. > > 2009/11/20 Mariusz Radon mariusz.radon(0)gmail.com : >> >> Sent to CCL by: Mariusz Radon [mariusz.radon]-[gmail.com] >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I am looking for a program being able to optimize the crystal >> structure of transition metal complex (molecular structure and unit >> cell parameters) at DFT level. An important point is that I must be >> able to control the spin state of the complex, because I would like to >> perform such optimizations for different spin states in order to >> capture the influence of the spin state on the molecular structure and >> packing in the crystal. >> >> Could you recommend me any program capable to achieve this goal >> (preferably, but not necessarily free software)? Thank you in advance >> very much. >> >> Best regards, >> Mariusz Radon > > > -- > Adam Kubas > Karlsruher Institut f=C3=BCr Technologie (KIT) > Institut f=C3=BCr Physikalische Chemie > Abteilung f=C3=BCr Theoretische Chemie > Geb. 30.45, Kaiserstra=C3=9Fe 12, D-76131 Karlsruhe > http://www.ipc.uni-karlsruhe.de/theochem/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Office: > Institut f=C3=BCr Nanotechnologie > Raum: 640/0-333 > Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1 > 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen > Tel.: +49 7247 82-8834 > http://www.int.kit.edu > > KIT - Universit=C3=A4t des Landes Baden-W=C3=BCrttemberg und > nationales Gro=C3=9Fforschungszentrum in der Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft > > > > - This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script -> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > --=20 Mariusz Radon, PhD student Department of Theoretical Chemistry Jagiellonian University http://www.chemia.uj.edu.pl/~mradon mradon /at/ chemia.uj.edu.pl (PGP public key available on the website) From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 12:30:01 2009 From: "William F. Coleman wcoleman##wellesley.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? Message-Id: <-40741-091121115122-17270-+gEolFXpKDC4Q7iroNOiTg _ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "William F. Coleman" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--=_--1edd283c.1edd2747.c72dbf2b" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:00:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "William F. Coleman" [wcoleman|a|wellesley.edu] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----=_--1edd283c.1edd2747.c72dbf2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The orbitals are arranged in order of increasing energy. You just need to know how many electrons are in your system, and divide that number by two to get the number of the HOMO. It is not clear which method you used, but the energies strike me as odd as all are negative. Are these all of the eigenvectors you obtained (I don't use MOPAC so am not exactly sure how the output appears. Cheers, Flick _______________ William F. Coleman Professor of Chemistry Wellesley College Wellesley MA 02481 www.wellesley.edu/Chemistry/colemanw.html Editor, JCE WebWare and JCE Featured Molecules http://www.jce.divched.org/JCEDLib/WebWare/ http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCEWWW/Features/MonthlyMolecules/index.html ----=_--1edd283c.1edd2747.c72dbf2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <=21DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =22-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN=22>
The orbitals are arranged in order of= increasing energy.  You just need to know how many electrons are in y= our system, and divide that number by two to get the number of the HOMO. &n= bsp;It is not clear which method you used, but the energies strike me as od= d as all are negative.  Are these all of the eigenvectors you obtained= (I don't use MOPAC so am not exactly sure how the output appears.

Cheers,

Flick


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----=_--1edd283c.1edd2747.c72dbf2b-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 14:02:00 2009 From: "John McKelvey jmmckel|a|gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Which program to optimize the crystal structure of transition metal complex? Message-Id: <-40742-091121084523-27234-DkToLcB/I+VVYZFo9dqjsA*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: John McKelvey Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:45:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: John McKelvey [jmmckel^gmail.com] Folks, Though a DFT method suggestion was requested for this, one might find it interesting to consider looking at trends using the recent work of Jimmy Stewart's PM6 in MOPAC 2009. Itis extremely fast, has periodic capabilities, and Jimmy has used it to model X-RAY structures. Cheers, John McKelvey On 11/21/09, Adam Kubas adam.kubas]*[kit.edu wrot= e: > > Sent to CCL by: Adam Kubas [adam.kubas^kit.edu] > Dear Mariusz, > > My propositions are Turbomole and Orca - first is the fastest DFT code > I've ever seen with wide range of options to control spin state of > optimized compound but you have to buy it (free demo is available). > The second program is a free package and is easily to use. > > 2009/11/20 Mariusz Radon mariusz.radon(0)gmail.com > : >> >> Sent to CCL by: Mariusz Radon [mariusz.radon]-[gmail.com] >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I am looking for a program being able to optimize the crystal >> structure of transition metal complex (molecular structure and unit >> cell parameters) at DFT level. An important point is that I must be >> able to control the spin state of the complex, because I would like to >> perform such optimizations for different spin states in order to >> capture the influence of the spin state on the molecular structure and >> packing in the crystal. >> >> Could you recommend me any program capable to achieve this goal >> (preferably, but not necessarily free software)? Thank you in advance >> very much. >> >> Best regards, >> Mariusz Radon > > > -- > Adam Kubas > Karlsruher Institut f=FCr Technologie (KIT) > Institut f=FCr Physikalische Chemie > Abteilung f=FCr Theoretische Chemie > Geb. 30.45, Kaiserstra=DFe 12, D-76131 Karlsruhe > http://www.ipc.uni-karlsruhe.de/theochem/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Office: > Institut f=FCr Nanotechnologie > Raum: 640/0-333 > Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1 > 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen > Tel.: +49 7247 82-8834 > http://www.int.kit.edu > > KIT - Universit=E4t des Landes Baden-W=FCrttemberg und > nationales Gro=DFforschungszentrum in der Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft > > > > - This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script -> > > --=20 John McKelvey 10819 Middleford Pl Ft Wayne, IN 46818 260-489-2160 jmmckel-x-gmail.com From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 22:16:01 2009 From: "qiancheng shen qianchengshen!A!gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? Message-Id: <-40743-091121221448-2834-FSqD4SAz9N5P78lY9Rgryg++server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: qiancheng shen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee7cee37b850478ed1bdd Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:14:37 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: qiancheng shen [qianchengshen * gmail.com] --0016364ee7cee37b850478ed1bdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Morad, Thank you for your reply. It really works. Best regards, Qiancheng 2009/11/22 Morad El-Hendawy m80elhendawy*|*yahoo.com < owner-chemistry+*+ccl.net> > Dear Qiancheng, > Go to Berif outpout, you will foind a summary like below: > > FINAL HEAT OF FORMATION = 26.97779 KCAL > TOTAL ENERGY = -19.78933 EV > ELECTRONIC ENERGY = -27.20810 EV > CORE-CORE REPULSION = 7.41878 EV > IONIZATION POTENTIAL = 8.38124 > NO. OF FILLED LEVELS = 1 > MOLECULAR WEIGHT = 7.948 > > From the value of ionization potential you can specify the HOMO level; > because the former is negative value of the later. See this representative > example for LiH molecule: > > TOTAL ENERGY = -19.78933 EV > ELECTRONIC ENERGY = -27.20810 EV > CORE-CORE REPULSION = 7.41878 EV > IONIZATION POTENTIAL = 8.38124 > NO. OF FILLED LEVELS = 1 > MOLECULAR WEIGHT = 7.948 > EIGENVECTORS > ROOT NO. 1 2 3 4 5 > -8.38124 0.63258 2.45221 2.45221 5.60161 > > S Li 1 0.41230 0.80110 0.00000 0.00000 -0.43387 > PX Li 1 0.34007 -0.57714 0.00000 0.00000 -0.74247 > PY Li 1 0.00000 0.00000 -0.92376 0.38298 0.00000 > PZ Li 1 0.00000 0.00000 0.38298 0.92376 0.00000 > > Best regards > * > ************************************************************************************************** > * > *Morad M. El-Hendawy* > Ireland > * > ************************************************************************************************** > * > ** *If you want a happy life, do four things:* > ** > *1- Contemplate and be thankful, > 2- The past is gone forever, > 3- Today all that you have, > 4- Leave the future alone until it come. * > * > ******************************************************************************************************************* > * > ** > > --- On *Sat, 11/21/09, qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com > * wrote: > > > From: qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com > Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output?? > To: "El-Hendawy, Morad Metwally " > Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 5:53 AM > > Dear CCLers, > I got a MOPAC output file will all EIGENVECTORS printed out. But, > Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO? > Could anyone help me? > > The output MO information looks like: > > Root No. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > 8 > > 1 A 2 A 3 A 4 A 5 A 6 A 7 A 8 A > > > -37.523 -35.473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.108 -20.717 -19.976 > > S C 1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662 0.2965 -0.1799 -0.2729 0.1466 > Px C 1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.1044 -0.0410 -0.0398 0.0921 0.2435 -0.1648 > Py C 1 -0.0125 -0.0125 0.0008 0.0230 -0.0359 0.0378 -0.0719 0.0727 > Pz C 1 -0.0016 -0.0004 0.0022 0.0022 0.0032 -0.0147 0.0045 -0.0002 > S C 2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803 0.1349 0.3741 -0.2315 > Px C 2 -0.0130 0.0324 0.1300 0.2048 -0.1953 0.0878 0.1430 -0.0600 > Py C 2 -0.0619 -0.0591 0.0039 0.0897 -0.1163 0.0882 -0.1543 0.1498 > ......... > and Root No. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 > > 9 A 10 A 11 A 12 A 13 A 14 A 15 A 16 A > > > -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.911 -14.409 -13.993 -13.166 -12.837 > > S C 1 0.0584 0.0193 -0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0170 0.0373 > Px C 1 -0.1888 -0.0755 0.3150 0.1065 0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1153 0.2238 > Py C 1 -0.2164 0.2561 0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704 0.0105 -0.0940 0.0989 > Pz C 1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804 0.0208 0.0267 -0.1218 -0.0939 > > > > --0016364ee7cee37b850478ed1bdd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Morad,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Thank you for your reply. It really wo= rks.

Best regards,
Qiancheng

20= 09/11/22 Morad El-Hendawy m80elhendawy*|*yahoo= .com <o= wner-chemistry+*+ccl.net>
Dear Qiancheng,
Go to Berif outpout, you will foind a summary like below= :

FINAL HEAT OF FORMATION =3D 26.97779 KCAL
TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19= .78933 EV
ELECTRONIC ENERGY =3D -27.20810 EV
CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D = 7.41878 EV
IONIZATION POTENTIAL =3D 8.38124
NO. OF FILLED LEVELS =3D 1
MOLECULAR= WEIGHT =3D 7.948

From the value of ionization potential you can spe= cify the HOMO level; because the former is negative value of the later. See= this representative example for LiH molecule:

TOTAL ENERGY =3D -19.78933 EV
ELECTRONIC ENERGY =3D -27.20810 EV
= CORE-CORE REPULSION =3D 7.41878 EV
IONIZATION POTENTIAL =3D 8.38124
NO. OF FILLED LE= VELS =3D 1
MOLECULAR WEIGHT =3D 7.948
EIGENVECTORS
ROOT NO. 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 5
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 -8.38124=A0 0.63258=A0=A0 2.45221=A0=A0 2.45221 =A0=A0 5.60161

S Li=A0= =A0=A0=A0 1=A0=A0=A0 0.41230=A0=A0 0.80110=A0=A0 0.00000=A0 0.00000=A0 -0.4= 3387
PX Li=A0=A0 1 =A0=A0 0.34007 =A0 -0.57714=A0 0.00000=A0 0.00000=A0 -0.74247=
PY Li =A0 1 =A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.00000=A0 -0.92376=A0 0.38298=A0 0.00= 000
PZ Li=A0=A0 1 =A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.00000=A0=A0 0.38298=A0 0.92376= =A0=A0 0.00000

Best regards
****************************************************= **********************************************
Morad M. El-Hendawy=
Ireland
********************************************= ******************************************************
=A0If you want a happy life, do four things:=A0
1- Conte= mplate and be thankful,
2- The past is gone forever,
3- Today all that you have,
4- Leave the future alone until it come.=A0
******************= ***************************************************************************= **********************
3D""

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, qiancheng sh= en qianchengshen{:}gmail.com= <owner-chemistry/a\= ccl.net> wrote:

From: qiancheng shen qianchengshen{:}gmail.com <owner-chemistry/a= \ccl.net>
Subject: CCL: How can I find the HOMO from the MOPAC output??
To: "= El-Hendawy, Morad Metwally " <m80elhendawy/a\yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, November 21, = 2009, 5:53 AM

Dear CCLers,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I got a MOPAC output file wi= ll all EIGENVECTORS printed out. But, Which Molecular Orbital is the HOMO?<= br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Could anyone help me?

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 The output MO information looks like:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 5=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 6=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 8

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 1 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 2 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 3 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 4 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 5 A= =A0=A0=A0=A0 6 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 7 A=A0=A0=A0=A0 8 A=A0=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -37.523 -35.473 -32.665 -29.061 -25.420 -22.108 -20.717 = -19.976
=A0
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1 -0.1694 -0.2922 -0.3855 -0.3662=A0 0.2965 -0.179= 9 -0.2729=A0 0.1466
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0710 -0.1061 -0.1044 -0.0410 -0.= 0398=A0 0.0921=A0 0.2435 -0.1648
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0125 -0.0125=A0 0.0= 008=A0 0.0230 -0.0359=A0 0.0378 -0.0719=A0 0.0727
=A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0016 -0.0004=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0022=A0 0.0032 -0.0147=A0 0= .0045 -0.0002
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 2 -0.2852 -0.3992 -0.3553 -0.1230 -0.0803= =A0 0.1349=A0 0.3741 -0.2315
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0130=A0 0.0324=A0 0.130= 0=A0 0.2048 -0.1953=A0 0.0878=A0 0.1430 -0.0600
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 2 -0.0619 -0.0591=A0 0.0039=A0 0.0897 -0.1163=A0 0.0882 -0.1= 543=A0 0.1498
.........
and=A0 Root No.=A0=A0=A0 9=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 10= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 11=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 12=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 13=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 14=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 15=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 16

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 9 A=A0=A0=A0 10 A=A0=A0=A0 11 A=A0=A0=A0 12 A=A0=A0=A0 13 A=A0=A0=A0= 14 A=A0=A0=A0 15 A=A0=A0=A0 16 A=A0=A0

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -16.372 -15.825 -15.103 -14.911 -14.409 = -13.993 -13.166 -12.837
=A0
=A0 S=A0=A0 C=A0 1=A0 0.0584=A0 0.0193 -= 0.0318 -0.0135 -0.0222 -0.0010 -0.0170=A0 0.0373
=A0 Px=A0 C=A0 1 -0.188= 8 -0.0755=A0 0.3150=A0 0.1065=A0 0.2760 -0.1557 -0.1153=A0 0.2238
=A0 Py=A0 C=A0 1 -0.2164=A0 0.2561=A0 0.2688 -0.0859 -0.2704=A0 0.0105 -0.0= 940=A0 0.0989
=A0 Pz=A0 C=A0 1 -0.0448 -0.0097 -0.0142 -0.0804=A0 0.0208= =A0 0.0267 -0.1218 -0.0939




--0016364ee7cee37b850478ed1bdd-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Nov 21 22:59:00 2009 From: "Tobias Kind tkind/a\ucdavis.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: chemoinformatics / a nomenclature challenge Message-Id: <-40744-091120203520-7778-nahKVnt8BIuUngbHtCQGCQ+/-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Tobias Kind" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:23:15 -0800 (PST) Sent to CCL by: "Tobias Kind" [tkind]|[ucdavis.edu] Hello Michel, actually the name was already posted back in 2006 and 2009. 1) sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.chem/2006-06/msg00154.html 2) darkhammer.multiply.com/journal/item/223 Marvin from ChemAxon can import and export the correct name. Hence it can create the name from the connection table, and it can create the molecule connection table from the name. I don't know if the IUPAC Name is correct (I guess so, maybe Daniel the author can help) but at least its consistent within the algorithm. Regarding the generation of all stereoisomers and the correct naming of those molecules, that is a different case I would say and unless somebody cooks that molecule also of lesser importance than lets say the pig flu. Run Marvin free with JAVA (Naming is licensed): http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/examples/webstart/mview.jnlp [6.6]chiralane tetradecacyclo[13.11.1.0^{1,18}.0^{2,7}.0^{2,11}.0^{3,14}.0^{5,27}.0^{6,25}.0^{9,26}.0^{10,19}.0^{13,18}.0^{17,22}.0^{21,26}.0^{23,27}]heptacosane [6.6]chiralane InChI=1S/C27H28/c1-7-19-9-2-15-21-13-5-12-20-8(1)23(9,13)27-24(7)10(20)3-16-22-14(24)4-11(19)25(15,27)18(22)6-17(21)26(12,16)27/h7-22H,1-6H2 [6.6]chiralane InChIKey JKJBBXWDXQSMMM-OXSFYKJQBU http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.graphs.html#CHIR If I wouldn't know better I would say that looks like a typical Uncle Al question, well it was :-) Cheers Tobias Kind http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/ > Sent to CCL by: Michel Petitjean [petitjean.chiral%x%gmail.com] > Dear CCLers, > > Here is my challenge: assign a name to the [6.6]chiralane, C27H28. > The connection table is available from > http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.graphs.html#CHIR > If somebody has a programme running successfully on this small molecule, > please tell me and send me the name: > until now, nomenclature assignment programmes failed ! > Furthermore, I would be delighted to know what name is > generated from CAS or IUPAC rules. > Many thanks. > > All my best, > > Michel Petitjean, > CEA/DSV/iBiTec-S/SB2SM (CNRS URA 2096), > 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex, France. > Phone: +331 6908 4006 / Fax: +331 6908 4007 > E-mail: michel.petitjean,,cea.fr, petitjean.chiral,,gmail.com (preferred) > http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html> > > Dr. Tobias Kind UC Davis Genome Center Metabolomics Group http://genomecenter.ucdavis.edu Tel:+1-530-752-9922