From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 03:16:01 2009 From: "andras.borosy_._givaudan.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: PCA analysis tool Message-Id: <-40599-091104030251-11950-NXA9G7+g21r37EX7yu6DxQ * server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: andras.borosy/./givaudan.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0029350EC1257664_=" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:30:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: andras.borosy---givaudan.com This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0029350EC1257664_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear AD, Try Matlab or its free homologue Octave! http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ Regards, Dr. Andr=E1s P=E9ter Borosy Scientific Modelling Expert Fragrance Research Givaudan Schweiz AG - Ueberlandstrasse 138 - CH-8600 - D=FCbendorf -= =20 Switzerland T:+41-44-824 2164 - F:+41-44-8242926 - http://www.givaudan.com "amit dong dongamit123]=3D[gmail.com" =20 Sent by: owner-chemistry+andras.borosy=3D=3Dgivaudan.com() ccl.net 03.11.2009 23:46 Please respond to "CCL Subscribers" To "Borosy, Andras " cc Subject CCL: PCA analysis tool Hi, =20 I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors=20 using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already = calculated the descriptors for both the groups. =20 Thanks AD --=_alternative 0029350EC1257664_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already calculated the descriptors for both the groups.
 
Thanks
AD
--=_alternative 0029350EC1257664_=-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 03:50:00 2009 From: "Abhinav Kumar abhinavmarshal^gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How to use ECP60MWB Message-Id: <-40600-091104034053-25043-K//0jVkEH0dI70caoSPBiQ^_^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Abhinav Kumar" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 03:40:49 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Abhinav Kumar" [abhinavmarshal=-=gmail.com] Dear All, I am trying to incorporate ECP60MWB basis set for Hg atom in G03W program. Also I am using 6-31G** for specifying other atoms in the molecules. But the program is not running. I shall be grateful if someone help me for this. I am using the following input file. %chk=counterpoiseredundant.chk %mem=600mb #p OPT=(modredundant) B3LYP/GENECP pseudo=read counterpoise=2 6d 10f scf =(save) counterpoise 0 1 C 6.187645 0.658937 -0.444884 1 C 5.988916 1.764294 0.569613 1 H 4.987060 1.852444 1.113778 1 C 7.124002 2.727396 0.876644 1 H 6.971060 3.553158 1.664681 1 C 8.458034 2.588557 0.164603 1 H 9.319108 3.304291 0.408589 1 C 8.645129 1.489972 -0.869666 1 H 9.651744 1.380074 -1.413981 1 C 7.511744 0.524195 -1.171361 1 H 7.663000 -0.316071 -1.936041 1 C 4.970202 -0.363193 -0.823176 1 H 5.389714 -1.430236 -0.923940 1 H 4.481337 -0.040781 -1.810046 1 C 2.620269 0.388455 0.145035 1 C 4.248142 -1.122000 1.621266 1 H 3.838050 -2.190944 1.585652 1 H 5.392888 -1.112762 1.693224 1 H 3.766258 -0.563004 2.503545 1 C -1.493650 3.190099 -0.055311 1 C -1.490256 3.889216 -1.392390 1 H -0.684579 3.649271 -2.163542 1 C -2.565611 4.920580 -1.731738 1 H -2.554521 5.453482 -2.746932 1 C -3.669412 5.247611 -0.727761 1 H -4.478683 6.015252 -0.985238 1 C -3.681619 4.527151 0.614273 1 H -4.504421 4.747179 1.379096 1 C -2.586759 3.521413 0.933710 1 H -2.609368 3.000176 1.943420 1 Hg -0.104489 1.849125 0.717009 1 N 3.881795 -0.366030 0.289521 1 S 2.119291 1.264116 -1.431527 1 S 1.469275 0.330442 1.649670 1 C 1.469255 -3.852124 1.406662 2 H -3.848686 2.209364 -1.545824 2 C -6.169576 -0.670308 0.443134 2 C -5.970024 -1.759930 -0.591067 2 H -4.962440 -1.857595 -1.123475 2 C -7.117246 -2.707586 -0.914366 2 H -6.966817 -3.533305 -1.694531 2 C -8.451670 -2.569305 -0.194263 2 H -9.306241 -3.296732 -0.424483 2 C -8.639188 -1.480345 0.853030 2 H -9.640746 -1.368264 1.398875 2 C -7.495827 -0.527976 1.169242 2 H -7.634212 0.296620 1.949945 2 C -4.951044 0.355455 0.836239 2 H -5.369375 1.426169 0.940765 2 H -4.435222 0.007382 1.808737 2 C -2.620006 -0.401309 -0.139616 2 C -4.246075 1.131779 -1.604222 2 H -5.395031 1.104650 -1.683426 2 H -3.768255 0.580966 -2.498980 2 C 1.489472 -3.172856 0.069185 2 H 0.638579 -3.595517 2.155819 2 C 2.532733 -4.880122 1.785897 2 H 2.509666 -5.393792 2.806566 2 C 3.642343 -5.221218 0.789515 2 H 4.455812 -5.980358 1.060409 2 C 3.667208 -4.524813 -0.574595 2 H 4.493650 -4.773872 -1.325923 2 C 2.583977 -3.511019 -0.910796 2 H 2.623812 -3.002611 -1.921606 2 Hg 0.107433 -1.855619 -0.730859 2 N -3.869275 0.362802 -0.281304 2 S -2.126502 -1.286510 1.444512 2 S -1.480373 -0.342334 -1.660258 2 B 31 67 F B 33 65 F c h n 0 6-31G** **** S 0 6-311G++(d,p) **** Hg 0 ECP60MWB **** Hg 0 ECP60MWB Abhinav Kumar Lecturer in Inorganic Chemistry Department of Chemistry Faculty of Science Lucknow University Lucknow 226 007 INDIA abhinavmarshal{=}gmail.com From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 04:33:00 2009 From: "James Robinson james.robinson]![prosonix.co.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: PCA analysis tools Message-Id: <-40601-091104042735-9527-pKfxlhX75ZQBaXk5BEm93Q]-[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "James Robinson" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 04:27:30 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "James Robinson" [james.robinson-*-prosonix.co.uk] Hi AD et al, I thoroughly recommend Pychem. The web link is pasted below.. http://pychem.sourceforge.net/?q=node/15 It works rather well on XP, I have not used it on linux yet, must try that. James, UK. From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 05:41:00 2009 From: "Basma Ghazal basmaghazal*_*ymail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Request Message-Id: <-40602-091104053921-25630-uBzmZ/PfiyWeJUxBjZFh3w()server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Basma Ghazal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1188169630-1257331150=:47034" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 02:39:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Basma Ghazal [basmaghazal_._ymail.com] --0-1188169630-1257331150=:47034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=0AThere are 2=A0 sulfate ion on my pdb structure .=0AI wander if this i= ons separate with crystalization if so, =0Awhat about the poket they occupi= ed?=0ADoes it effect on my docking results?=0AThanks,=0A=0A=0A --0-1188169630-1257331150=:47034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

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There are 2  sulfate ion on my pdb structure .<= /P>=0A

I wander if this ions separate with crystalization if so,

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Does it effect on my docking= results?

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Thanks,


=0A=0A --0-1188169630-1257331150=:47034-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 06:57:01 2009 From: "Basma Ghazal basmaghazal%x%ymail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Request Message-Id: <-40603-091104065528-26995-/lDrst3lzlxiFqAbi187MQ**server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Basma Ghazal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-560690675-1257335717=:71679" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 03:55:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Basma Ghazal [basmaghazal[]ymail.com] --0-560690675-1257335717=:71679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=0AThere are 2=A0 sulfate ion on my pdb structure .=0AI wonder if this i= ons separate with crystalization if so, =0Awhat about the pocket they occup= ied?=0ADoes it effect on my docking results?=0AThanks,=0A=0A=0A --0-560690675-1257335717=:71679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi,

=0A

There are 2  sulfate ion on my pdb structur= e .

=0A

I wonder if this ions separate with crystalization if so,

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what about the pocket they occupied?

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Does it effect on my do= cking results?

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Thanks,


=0A=0A --0-560690675-1257335717=:71679-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 09:07:00 2009 From: "Rino Ragno rino.ragno[#]uniroma1.it" To: CCL Subject: CCL: PCA analysis tool Message-Id: <-40604-091104041325-1444-rcRRmzEPqNgFcY5EVzbQ2Q _ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Rino Ragno Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:38:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Rino Ragno [rino.ragno[A]uniroma1.it] I would suggest R Cran. It is very potent and it is interafaced with the cdk libraries. make a pubmed search, someone has already used it for the same purpose. Rino amit dong dongamit123]=[gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors > using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have > already calculated the descriptors for both the groups. > > Thanks > AD -- ++--------------------------------------------++ || Dr. Rino Ragno || || Dip. di Chimica e Tecnologie del Farmaco || || Facolta' di Farmacia || || Universita' degli Studi di Roma "Sapienza" || || P.le Aldo Moro, 5 - 00185 - Roma/Italia || || PO BOX 36 ROMA 62 || || Phone: || || Office/Lab +39-06-49913937/152 || || Fax: || || Dpt +39-06-491491 || || Office +39-06-49913627 || || E-mail: rino.ragno(!)uniroma1.it || || WWW: http://www.rcmd.it || ++--------------------------------------------++ From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 09:42:00 2009 From: "Richard EUDES richard.eudes---gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: PCA analysis tool Message-Id: <-40605-091104055458-323-iXH4V+QaTDAONuI3Y3NDpw(!)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Richard EUDES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feaf081203fa1a5047788c249 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:06:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Richard EUDES [richard.eudes---gmail.com] --000feaf081203fa1a5047788c249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 JMP www.jmp.com http://www.sas.com/apps/demosdownloads/jmptrial8_PROD__sysdep.jsp?packageID=000503&jmpflag=Y 2009/11/3 amit dong dongamit123]=[gmail.com > Hi, > > I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors > using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already > calculated the descriptors for both the groups. > > Thanks > AD > --000feaf081203fa1a5047788c249 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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2009/11/3 amit dong dongamit123]=3D[gmail.com <owner-chemistry[*]ccl.net>
Hi,
=A0
I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors= using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already= calculated the descriptors for both the groups.
=A0
Thanks
AD

--000feaf081203fa1a5047788c249-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 10:17:01 2009 From: "steinbrt[]rci.rutgers.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Request Message-Id: <-40606-091104093315-30654-kC3jADUAzy4UQ8MwUVg/HA(-)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: steinbrt%x%rci.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:32:06 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: steinbrt=rci.rutgers.edu Hi Basma, in my experience, sulfate ions in an X-ray structure often come from the crystalisation buffer and may be considered crystalisation artifacts, i.e., those ions would not be there in the 'true' solution structure of the protein. The pockets they occupy may simply be water filled, contain a different ion or may undergo conformational changes. If your docking method contains a detailed description of electrostatics, then the ions may influence your results. If they are far away from the binding site, their influence will probably be minor though. Kind Regards, Thomas On Wed, November 4, 2009 6:55 am, Basma Ghazal basmaghazal%x%ymail.com wrote: > Hi, > There are 2  sulfate ion on my pdb structure . > I wonder if this ions separate with crystalization if so, > what about the pocket they occupied? > Does it effect on my docking results? > Thanks, Dr. Thomas Steinbrecher BioMaps Institute Rutgers University 610 Taylor Rd. Piscataway, NJ 08854 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 11:57:01 2009 From: "Werner K werner.schroedinger-x-googlemail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Homology modeling and loop refinement Message-Id: <-40607-091104115245-13017-XnKohn8YlVvx9BI8GNcv6g]~[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Werner K" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:52:41 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Werner K" [werner.schroedinger^-^googlemail.com] Hi, what are in your opinion the best softwares, free and commercial, for protein homology modeling and loop refinement? Thanks WS From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 13:59:00 2009 From: "Marcin Krol mykrol]|[cyf-kr.edu.pl" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Homology modeling and loop refinement Message-Id: <-40608-091104134702-16070-81+17j4dScK9Hg7UX0c+Ew\a/server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marcin Krol Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:11:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Marcin Krol [mykrol(-)cyf-kr.edu.pl] Hi Try the POPULUS server (and a standalone version), it performed quite well in the recent CASP http://www.bmm.icnet.uk/~populus/ Best marcin > Sent to CCL by: "Werner K" [werner.schroedinger^-^googlemail.com] > Hi, > > what are in your opinion the best softwares, free and commercial, for protein homology modeling and loop refinement? > > Thanks > > WS> > -- Dr Marcin Krol Zaklad Bioinformatyki i Telemedycyny Collegium Medicum Uniwersytet Jagiellonski e-mail: mykrol_+_cyf-kr.edu.pl From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 20:45:00 2009 From: "Zhong jie liang zjliang:-:mail.shcnc.ac.cn" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: L401 problem Message-Id: <-40609-091104204318-13332-dJ8a2gwrjCrNKZf9eB1NGQ|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Zhong jie liang" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:43:14 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Zhong jie liang" [zjliang__mail.shcnc.ac.cn] Dear experts: When I did ONIOM caculation. There was error message as follows: Harris functional with IExCor= 402 diagonalized for initial guess. ExpMin= 1.61D-01 ExpMax= 5.48D+03 ExpMxC= 8.25D+02 IAcc=1 IRadAn= 1 AccDes= 1.00D-06 HarFok: IExCor= 402 AccDes= 1.00D-06 IRadAn= 1 IDoV=1 ScaDFX= 1.000000 1.000000 1.000000 1.000000 Spurious integrated density or basis function: NE= 159 NElCor= 0 El error=7.68D-02 rel=4.83D-04 Tolerance=1.00D-03 Shell 49 absolute error=3.65D-02 Tolerance=1.20D-02 Shell 77 signed error=1.89D-04 Tolerance=1.00D-01 Inaccurate quadrature in CalDSu. Error termination via Lnk1e in /home_soft/home/simm14/program/g03/l401.exe Can anyone give some suggestion? Thanks! Zhongjie Liang zjliang,+,mail.shcnc.ac.cn From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Nov 4 22:09:00 2009 From: "ros rodrigogalindo^^gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: PCA analysis tool Message-Id: <-40610-091104112455-8568-+GhX4eaWQ3iMthEwCRFPIQ%%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: ros Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646432cf4ea5a04778d04f7 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:11:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: ros [rodrigogalindo:-:gmail.com] --0016e646432cf4ea5a04778d04f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009/11/3 Rajarshi Guha rajarshi.guha[#]gmail.com > > Sent to CCL by: Rajarshi Guha [rajarshi.guha_+_gmail.com] > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:46 PM, amit dong dongamit123]=[gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, >> >> I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors >> using PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already >> calculated the descriptors for both the groups. >> > > Hello! > You can use SIMCA-P from umetrics. http://www.umetrics.com/default.asp/pagename/software_simcapplus/c/3 Its not free but has a working demo so you can try it. I've used it before and recommend it. Cheers! Rodrigo. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Rajarshi Guha | NIH Chemical Genomics Center > http://www.rguha.net | http://ncgc.nih.gov > ---------------------------------------------------- > Gravity brings me down.http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml> > Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobsConferences: > http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/> > > --0016e646432cf4ea5a04778d04f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/11/3 Rajarshi Guha rajarshi.guha[#]= gmail.com <owner-chemistry : ccl.net>
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Sent to CCL by: Rajarshi Guha [rajarshi.guha_+_gmail.com]

On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:46 PM, amit dong dongamit123]=3D[gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I want to analyse the distribution of my inhibitors and non-inhibitors usin= g PCA. Is there any tool that can be used for the same? I have already calc= ulated the descriptors for both the groups.

Hello!
You can use SIMCA-P from umetrics.
h= ttp://www.umetrics.com/default.asp/pagename/software_simcapplus/c/3

Its not free but has a working demo so you can try it.=A0 I've used= it before and recommend it.

Cheers!
Rodrigo.

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