From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Mar 18 11:23:01 2009 From: "Zsolt Zsoldos zsolt]_[simbiosys.ca" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Protonation states Message-Id: <-38878-090318110541-22852-tVGtrsVZdj8ck9dqQyAysA*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Zsolt Zsoldos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:32:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Zsolt Zsoldos [zsolt[#]simbiosys.ca] Hi Sergio, As others have suggested, there are general force field techniques and you can also use pKa estimation based methods if you are interested in the most likely protonation state of the ligand in solution at a given pH. However, you should be aware that if you want to use your ligand for docking to a protein site, then computing the correct protonation state is a much more complex task, and in fact it depends on the specific pose of the ligand in the binding site. I have written a detailed blog post about this question in response to an earlier (last year) CCL posting, see here: http://www.simbiosys.ca/blog/2008/05/17/correct-protonation-state-for-docking/ I hope this helps, Zsolt On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Sergio Mares-Samano sergio.mares-samano,postgrad.manchester.ac.uk wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Sergio Mares-Samano > [sergio.mares-samano/a\postgrad.manchester.ac.uk] > Hi, > > Which software (free/open source) can I use to assign the correct ligand > protonation forms? I have a database of around 5000 molecules (smile format) > and used open babel to convert them into the SDF's. After performing a > google search, I found that OpenBabel was a good option to get the SDF's > from the smiles. Now however, I'm struggling to find a program to assign the > correct charges according to a certain pH e.g. 7. > > Any suggestions? > > Thank you very much in advance, > > Sergio Mares-Samanohttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlConferences: > http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/> > > -- Zsolt Zsoldos, PhD From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Mar 18 23:40:01 2009 From: "Muhammad Ramzan Saeed Janjua dr_janjua2010#,#yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Open Shell/ Close Shell Message-Id: <-38879-090318213302-11699-ni9WRYepUmChYWfkLaqFHw : server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Muhammad Ramzan Saeed Janjua" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:32:57 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Muhammad Ramzan Saeed Janjua" [dr_janjua2010::yahoo.com] Dear Colleagues, Is there any rule or formula to find whether a particular molecule belongs to open shell or close shell? Is there any corelation between spin plarization and spin multiplicity? Thanks in anticipation! Stay Bless, Janjua PhD Scholar at NENU P.R. China